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Hi,
Really am in desparate need to find out anything about this guy once he grew up. He doesn't seem to be anywhere? He was born 28/7/1888. I know who his parents and siblings are but cannot find a marriage/death anywhere.
Can anyone help.
I have had access to several trees but the same story. I thought I would have one last try before I give up on this guy.
Thanks

Sheila

What is his last known date?

Ozi.

Hi,
That is all the info I have. Most likely born in Hull to Thomas Wilson and Ellen Ringrose (married21/6/1867)Had a brother Arthur,sisters Annie,Alice and Nellie.
They are all a bit of a mystery which is a pity because they would have been my nearest relatives if still alive.
Sorry

This is the information you have?

1881:
Name: Thomas Wilson
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 6 Windsor Terr Windsor St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Engine Driver At Factory

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Wilson 34
Ellen Wilson 33
Anne Wilson 13
Alice Wilson 10
Ellen Wilson 7

So, is it Frank you're looking for?

1891:
Name: Ellen Wilson
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephan
Town: Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 6 Windsor Terrace, Windsor St

Occupation:

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Wilson 46 - engine driver - stationery
Ellen Wilson 44
Alice Wilson 20 - Cook
Arthur Wilson 8
Ada Wilson 5
Frank Wilson 2



1901:
Name: Ellen Wilson
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 14 Ockley Terrace, West Parade

Occupation:

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Wilson 57 - general labourer
Ellen Wilson 55
Auther Wilson 18 - grocer's assistant
Ada Wilson 15
Frank Wilson 12

I just wanna know how Ozibird divined a name from that first post. (Okay, I've done it on occasion -- search the board for some keyword, find what surname list the post appears in ...)

So here he is in 1901:

Name: Frank Wilson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184

Ada Wilson 15
Auther Wilson 18
Ellen Wilson 55
Frank Wilson 12
Thomas Wilson 57


One assumes you've checked and he isn't this person! --

Name: Frank Wilson
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse: Phoebe Watson
District: Hull (1854 Onw)
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside
Volume: 9d
Page: 544


When he was born -- presumably this record:

Name: Frank Wilson
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Hull (1854 Onw)
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside
Volume: 9d
Page: 266

-- his eldest sister was 20. (She may be the Anne Elizabeth Wilson who married in York in Q4 1888; a groom's name has helpfully been omitted.) Is it confirmed that Thomas and Ellen were his parents? There's some slight possibility that he could have married under his father's name, if not ...

Kathryn, it must've been late where you are when you posted.

Sheila gave his brother & sisters so I asked if the only other son was the one she was looking for. No magic tricks, no mirrors.

Ozi.

Hi,
Sorry if I confused everyone. Yes it is Frank I am looking for on this thread.
Thomas Wilson was my G G Grandad.
The only one of the 5 children I had any info on was Arthur.
Ellen(Nellie) emigrated,Alice married a Fred Bray,Annie is a mystery-supposedly married a Tom Abbey(blacksmith but no further details) and then Frank of whom I only have his birth certificate.
On one of the census I lokked at there was an 'Ada' whom we know nothing about.
I'm really sorry about the confusion and causing all this work , I haven't been doing this very long.

Sheila

No worries, Sheila. There's a few of us on the 'boards' who love to take up a challenge. It makes our day when it's a curly one.

ozi.

This seems right for your Ada.

Births Sep 1885
Wilson Ada Hull 9d 2[59]8

This looks like Tom & Annie.

1891:
Name: Thomas R Abbey
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 191 Waterloo St

Occupation: blacksmith's striker

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas R Abbey 31
Annie Abbey 30 - b. Ely, Cambridgeshire
Charles Abbey 2 - b. Hull




1901:
Name: Thomas Richard Abbey
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: Sculcoates St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 207 Waterloo St

Occupation: blacksmith's striker

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Richard Abbey 41
Annie Abbey 40
Charles Abbey 12
Louisa Abbey 7

Marriages Dec 1888
...>>>ABBEY Thomas Richard Sculcoates 9d 323
...>>>BERRIDGE Annie Sculcoates 9d 323
BOAST Henry Sculcoates 9d 323
SMITH Louisa Sculcoates 9d 323


Looks like Annie was married before, but I can't find her.


Ozi.

Now hold on, Ozibird! This is all the opening post says -- to my eyes:

"Trying to find
Hi,
Really am in desparate need to find out anything about this guy once he grew up. He doesn't seem to be anywhere? He was born 28/7/1888. I know who his parents and siblings are but cannot find a marriage/death anywhere.
Can anyone help.
I have had access to several trees but the same story. I thought I would have one last try before I give up on this guy.
Thanks
Sheila"

To which I would have said: what guy?!?!?

But you seemed to know! No name of any variety in that post, and you didn't ask -- no names until the post answering your question about last known date.

So I say magic was afoot. Possibly black magic, preventing me from seeing what you seem to have seen!

Sorry, didn't mean to cause a fight!
I admit it's my fault probably because I had tried before and I was getting desparate and omitted his name.But I am right head blagged now, you will be getting fed up with me soon.

Ada only appears in one census (1891) and when my mum was alive she only knew of Ellen and Thomas having 5 children-Alice,Arthur,Frank,Annie and Ellen. We sem to be a very mysterious family!

Looking at the 'Tom and Annie part, I thought that they were 'mine' but as far as I knew Annie was Hull born so I still don't know but like I said, very mysterious.
I really do appreciate all the help you guys are giving me.

Sheila

I'm not fighting. ;) I just think Ozibird is using telepathy and thus has an unfair advantage here!

The bit you may not get, Sheila, is that you posted in the trying-to-find-Wilson list, but I'm seeing your post on the general trying-to-find board, so there's no surname, even, associated with it. If you look over on the left and it says "You are currently viewing the Wilson board, remove this filter", click "remove this filter" and then look for your post in the list, and you'll see the problem. ;)

Hmm, Ozibird.

In 1881, Anne Wilson was 13:

Name: Anne Wilson
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England


Your Annie Abbey here was 30 in 1891 and 40 in 1901:

Name: Annie Abbey
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas R
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely, Cambridgeshire, England


That's a bit of a discrepancy! Not to mention that Thomas Abbey's bride was BERRIDGE Annie -- who looks a lot like this one in 1871:

Name: Annie Berridge
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Ely Holy Trinity
Town: Stuntney
County/Island: Cambridgeshire


I don't think that that Annie Abbey is our Anne Wilson.

Hi,
I don't think they are the same either.
It looks like Frank, Annie and Ada will just remain elusive. Thanks for trying

Sheila

I know how it is -- I have the same problem with two people last seen in 1901. Henry Rossiter John Monro Coke aka Rossiter M McCock, last seen in the Imperial Yeomanry in the Boer War, his sister Jessie Frances Ada Monro Coke aka McCock last seen in London in 1901. They neither married nor died, nor had children, after that, it seems. And they're about the only hope I have of finding out any kind of truth about their mother and her brother, who was my gr-grfather.

A danged lot of young men, and even middle-aged men (my mum's uncle ... who just might really have been old Rossiter there ... was 34, or maybe really 39) did disappear into the chasm of WWI, I've found.

Hi,
Gosh, those names are mouthfuls!
I appear to have several 'second' marriages in my history which accounts for the fact I have been up ;wrong trees'.
They don't make it easy to trace them do they!

Sheila

Kathryn, if I had ESP I'd find your McCock/Moncks.

No magic, I'm just superhuman.

Ozi.