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If you want to confirm the surname you might need to order another of the children's birth certificates.

Rose

Did Henry leave Maria?

Rose

I think ?

Henry was born in Brinscall ,Lancs 1864

Yes, you have Rose , James & joseph were born in B/burn...Harry & Sarah in the Isle of Man

There have been a lots of skeletons in the closet by both my parents , I am at lost !!

OK, that's what Henry is in 1891, so I have the correct family.

Rose

June,

Do I have the correct family in 1891 and 1901?

Rose

to Rose , cabinet maker , so is says on the cert

To Rose ,
How can she be mother in law ? i do have the files of both 1901 and 1891.
My partner and I believe it is a misprint by the registry .

In my wildest dream I was not expecting any answers from you lovely people :-)

Has it been typed out? This is her birth cert you're talking about? What was her father's profession?

Rose

On my grandmother Sarah's certificate says " Maria Ramsbottom " formely " Fick "

Kath , I've no idea when or where they were married.

Yes.........no people called Fick at all anywhere I can find.

I think it's Leek too.

The 1881 census has two Mary A. Leakes who are away from home and servants.


Sue

Maria's listed as Mother in law here. That can't be right:

1901 England Census
about Sarah Ramsbottom
Name: Sarah Ramsbottom
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Man, Isle of Man

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Blackburn St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn, Northern
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members: Name Age
James Haworth 52
Kate Haworth 3
Susannah Haworth 51
Harry Ramsbottom 8
James Ramsbottom 11
Joseph Ramsbottom 10
Maria Ramsbottom 39
Sarah Ramsbottom 5

Rose

If you get the marriage cert it will tell you her fathers name and occupation which will make it easier to find them on the census

you had the same idea as me Rose, I've just found that too. No births for a Maria Fick or census returns,

1891 England Census
Name: Maria Ramsbottom
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: St Georges, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Blackburn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Blackburn
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Blackburn Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Ramsbottom 27
James Ramsbottom 1
Joseph Ramsbottom 4/12
Maria Ramsbottom 26
William Watson 39

Rose

That's why I was asking about the marriage Rose. That's the marriage I found and wondered if the surname had been mis-read.

Kath. x

Think you'll find the surname is Leek

Marriages Jun 1888
LEEK Maria Blackburn 8e 565
Ramsbottom Henry Blackburn 8e 565

Rose