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Hi Mike,

Tks for update .. on Henry Harley bc 1792 .. and the info about Buckminster, it looks as though the Harleys may have come from Melton Mowbray.

Till next time, tks heaps...

Karen of Brisbane

Edit...
I have some info from the national burial index... some burials are at St Margaret and some at Welford Road, are these separate places or one in the same, with a name change in later years..
Tks K

Hi Mike

I'm not sure you can help me with this, but perhaps you know where I can find out. My great great grandfather George Henry Holland was baptised at Blackforby, Leics in June 1860 and parents shown as Henry Holland and Mary. Henry was shown as a travelling brazier with the address Ashby wolds and another traveller from Ashby Wolds had a child baptised at the same time.

Firstly where exactly would Ashby Wolds be and would there have been a traveller's site there at that time?

Secondly I have been unable to trace a likely date of birth or marriage for Henry or the existence of any other children. George Henry Holland lived in Rugeley, Staffs according to later cencuses, seeming to have given up the travelling life and he married Caroline Johnson. His descendants also remained in the Staffordshire area.

Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated as I have been stuck for years on this.

Ann

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Just an update for you……..

To satisfy my curiosity to the wording “ Surrogate :~

“ From Thomas Parkinson. Surrogate.”

I had a look at the original Bond contract held on film at the Records Office

Seems the word “ Surrogate” was a term the Solicitors used to describe
the Person who was authorized to write up & issued all the Bond contracts.

Also…….. reading all the document I found out that
Thomas was John Simpson’s ( Securer of Bond ) .....Servant.
So………… Thomas was a Shoe maker by trade then.

Plus I noticed that the Bond was only for £100.
not £200 as written on the Licence Bond Index Card….

So in today’s valve £100 =

£14,085.09 using the retail price index.


MIKE. xx........." Watch out for my bill then "...lol :0)))

Greeting's Again Karen......

Whoops ...slip of the fingers
YES it's 1792 / 3
I've amended my post .....

Buckminster to Melton = 9. Miles

Buckminster ....

Go North East of Melton.....
It's to the left of Colsterworth
and before Sproxton

MIKE. xx

Just spotted a Baptism for a John Harley 1788
Buckminster
Father :~ Henry
Mother :~ ANN

So that name on the Register I could not make out for sure could well be Ann not my guess of Mary

Thank you so much Mike, don't know what I would do without you!

Caroline xx

Hi Mike,

Tks so much for doing this look up.. as you can see this is not easy.
Question, how far away is 'Meltow Mowbray' ( I think,) from 'Buckminster', have not found Buckmnster on map, but have found Melton...
I found on the IGI a Henry Harley bc1766 from Melton Mowbray, but there is no marriage listed c 1788 or before ( my Henry marries Ann).. Are you able to view this area, please

Tks once again for the help...
Karen of Brisbane

Edit.....

I have just reread your last entry to me and notice that the date for the Henry you found was 1772/3, but the date for the Henry I need is c1793... K

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There you Go………

St. Nicolas Parish Church.
Lockington. Leicestershire.

Fiche No. D E 575 / 4…….1st. fiche of two fiches.

Reads thus :~

Page. 13.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1760.

Thomas White. Of the Parish of Hemington in the County of Leicestershire.

Mary Burrows. Of the same place .

Married in the Church of Lockington. By LICENCE
From Thomas Parkinson. Surrogate.

This Eighteenth Day of February In the year of our Lord.
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Sixty.
By Me :~ Tho’ Bentley. Vicar.

Both parties signed the Register by their own Marks…….
Thomas …..+ ………Mary …+

In the presence of :~
Samuel Dakin…….. John Shaw. ( Parish Clark )

EXTRA INFORMATION from the Licence Bond Index card System.

Reads thus :~

Approved & Granted ......17th. Feb. 1760.

WHITE. Thomas. Bachelor. 24. Servant. Hemington cum Lockington.

BURROWS. Mary. Spinster. 23. Hemington
Marriage to take place Hemington cum Lockington..


Securer of £100 Bond. ( Amended 08.08.08.)
:~ ..... John Simpkin. Shoe maker. Hemington.

Your list of Baptisms checked out to be correct in every detail

So…. Another piece of the Jig Saw put in place……

MIKE. XX

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Temp Loan Fiche No. 1. Third fiche of three.

John the Baptist Parish Church
Buckminster
Registers read thus :~

The last but one page from the end of fiche.

Heading at top of this page reads
Baptisms of Anno Domini :~ 1792.

Date changes to 1793.

Right down at the bottom of this page under the entry for a Catherine in April
We Get………

Henry Son of Henry & Mary ? Harley……..Bapt……??? 29th.

Name of officiating Minister. …Wm. Bissule.

Sorry but writing was very faint for both Henry’s wife’s name and the Month the baptism took place. …..

MIKE. XX

Hello Mike

Thank you for the burials - that will keep me busy for a while!

Please only check the other stuff if you have time. It must be difficult to find out where people come from the further back you go but I think it is really interesting to see how far the young men travelled to find a bride!

Caroline xx

Greeting’s Again Frazzled…….

OK will do my best to have a look for you……
But seeing the early years the information will be very BASIC.
Plus I doubt if we find where they all came from
But hey…..I can but give it a try…..

In the meantime some details I’ve found to date……:~

White Burials for St. Nicolas Parish Church. Lockington..:~

WHITE Edward 29 Dec 1819 0 Abode Hemington
WHITE John 20 Oct 1824 67 Abode Lockington
WHITE Elizabeth 23 Feb 1827 0 Abode Hemington
WHITE Sarah 26 Aug 1829 67 Abode Hemington
WHITE * JOSEPH 02 NOV 1833 Aged.65 ABODE HEMINGTON
WHITE * ELIZABETH 12 NOV 1833 Aged.57 ABODE HEMINGTON
WHITE Joseph 28 Mar 1835 1 Abode Hemington
WHITE * JAMES 28 SEP 1835 Aged.71 ABODE HEMINGTON
WHITE Ann 02 Jan 1842 21 Abode Hemington
WHITE * PERCIVAL 26 SEP 1843 Aged.81 ABODE HEMINGTON
WHITE Eunice 17 Sep 1851 84 Abode Hemington
WHITE Elizabeth 30 May 1856 1 Abode Hemington
WHITE Samuel 18 Jun 1858 13 Abode Hemington
WHITE Mary 07 Nov 1858 56 Abode Hemington
WHITE Edward 04 Nov 1861 Inf Abode Hemington
WHITE Percival 06 Mar 1864 66 Abode Hemington
WHITE Ann 17 Dec 1865 22 Abode Hemington
WHITE William 06 Feb 1871 32 Abode Hemington
WHITE John 11 Apr 1875 76 Abode Hemington
WHITE John Palmer 23 Dec 1876 32 Abode Hemington
WHITE Sophia 23 Jan 1879 82 Abode Hemington
WHITE Mary 26 Dec 1882 93 Abode Hemington


MIKE.

Hello Mike
Recently you kindly found the marriage of James White to Sarah Carteledge 19/11/1785 in Castle Donnington. I have found the marriage of James’ parents and his siblings but the entries are submitted . If you have time please could you check them out for me.

Thomas White = Mary Barrow 18/2/1760 in Lockington with Hemington

Children: All born in Lockington with Hemington
William 2/7//1760
Percival 7/6/1762
James 15/7/1764
Joseph 27/12/1767
Elizabeth 23/9/1770
Mary 14/2/1773
Sarah 16/4/1775
Dorothy 15/6/1777

I don’t know where Thomas or Mary were born either so any info would be gratefully received!

Many thanks
Caroline xx

Hi Mike

I am looking at the Bishops Transcripts for Buckminster.. Baps, Marriages and Burials, 1580-1849..FHL Bristish Film (590856.item 2)..
I get the film thru LDS Family History Centre.

I have found the first 3 ( of about 9) children and am struggling thru the rest of the film to find the others. I am chasing confirmation of Henry Harley b1793, but this page is unreadible ( Henry later marries Julia Winchester in 1814 in Chesterfield and start their family )

Tks...
Karen of Brisbane

Greeting’s again. ……. Karen O’ Brisbane….……..

What are you trying to read ?

If you post details then I can have a look at it this end
It might be a better copy? ….


MIKE.

Hi Mike

Sorry for the delay in replying..have spent the weekend in Melbourne, went to see the musical 'Wicked'.. what a great show...

Tks so much for the info. I am currently 'trying' to read a 'film' at my local LDS family history centre on Buckminster..its so faint its almost impossible to read unless one is expert at reading these things and I am not.. Just thought you might have access to other info...

Tks once again.. till next time...

Karen of Brisbane

Greeting’s again. ……… Karen O’ Brisbane.

Trawled the Parish Marriage Registers for Buckminster 1754. ~ 1798.

But NO Harley events showed up…..:0(((

BAPTISMS :~

ANNO DOMINI 1788.
John Son of Henry & Ann Harley…….Bapt.12th. October. Daniel Hitchin. Curate.

ANNO DOMINI 1790.
Ann daughter of Henry & Ann Harley. Bapt.19th. November.Wm.Bissile. Curate.

Seeing the early dates we are researching then I’m afraid any information gained will only be very basic. Therefore might not give place of birth. ....:0(((

MIKE.

Hi Mike

Tks for moving my request... Must have had a 'senior moment' and did not read that there was a new thread ....

Look forward to hearing from you soon.

Cheers
Karen of Brisbane

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Hi Mike,

Karen from Brisbane here.....

Hoping you can help with the following...
Looking for a marriage and the origin of
Henry Harley and Ann ???
first child born (I think) 1788 in Buckminster.
I have foun this family on the IGI and also info that was given to me, with no 'source' .

Many thanks for any help.

Cheers
Karen of Brisbane (a verrrrry chilly place at the moment)

nudge...adding to my threads, Hi Mike and all, Bob

nudge

Thanks Mary

Have just got back from a family do in Blackpool so will have a look later

Elaine