Genealogy Chat

thank for the goodies Derek, sorry you have not been well. I am only waiting for if and when you have time to visit the RO, I sent you all the info I already have on my Nightingales a couple of weeks back. Obviously if you have been unwell the RO is the last place you will have been so don't worry about it. 2009 maybe?? Hve a good christmas and i hope 2009 will be a healthy year for you.

Ann
Glos

Happy New year everybody......have now got a pretty decent access to belper and Duffield resources .which i didn't have before....

Derek

happy New year Derek.

Ooh goody, maybe my Nightingales will come out of the woodwork then.

Ann
Glos

Hi Sparkling person!! actually jave been doing a lot of bits and bobs today on your Nightingales.......have loads and loads of them,,but you seem to have most of them already.icluding the school records....and the workhouse ones too.....Looks fairly certaimn that your Ellen was daughter of William and mary rather than Elizabeth........but have found an interesting marriage of William Nightingale and ANN BIRD at Duffield 29.09.1805.and since Duffield is the Parish in which Belper sits......coulod be interesting!!
I'll let you know.

Derek

I shall wait with baited breath Derek. And I am 99.99% certain sure that they are not connected to Florence, but.....

Lost my sparkle now, taken me a day to get shot of it!!

Happy New Year Derek,
you have done wonders for my Hudson line they went from the least known of all my lines to the best. Keep up the good work

Mary!! xx how nice.....thank you for botering to post..A very happy New year to you and yours..and anything I can help you with just keep calling....my warchest of goodies is groeing all the time.

Take care xx
Derek

Happy New Year Derek, all the best for 2009.

Thank you Romany..lovely to hear from you and wishing you and yours all the very best for 2009...........keep the enquiries coming!!

Derek

HI Derek

Just reading the last few posts and so know you have been unwell. I hope you are on the mend. I'm not sure therefore if you have seen my request on 20th Dec.or not, or whether you have and can't help or my request is too vague or whether I should say anything at all, lol!

If you have time I would appreciate any help.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

Tracey

Hello Tracey..Happy New year to you.
Sorry about the delay..but i did do some work for you before Christmas..which was inconclusive.pending my deferred visit to Matlock..I am now going tomorrow at 12pm..that's Friday.
Here's what i have:
There is a church at Donisthorpe but only sinc 1850..so there are Parish Records for Oakthorpe and Donisthorpe, but the are held at Lichfield in Staffs..and only begin 1850-ish

Church Gresley appears to be the hub of activity..with most of the places you mention being at some time in that Parish. I havetranscriptions of BMD's for Church Gresley..but Sod's Law has decided that only Baptisms after 1812 are treanscribed!! Marriages and Burials do go back further..and I have those.
I had a quick look at Church gresley marriages.they are soemwhat limited but there is an entry for John Sutton 13.08.1787. Funny thing is its completely out of place chronologically and gives no other details.
Could this in fact be birth of the msn you want??? or a partial entry of the marriage of maybe his father?

The Church Gresley full PR's are at Matlock and I'll be basck to you tomorrow night..promise.

And please don't hesitate to give me a kick up the youknowwhere....I aometimes deserve it.

Derek ps Measham and Ashby are Leicester Office

HI Derek

Thank you for looking for me. I have quite a lot of later ancestors baptised in Church Gresley so CG seems a good possibility of finding John Sutton's baptism. I wonder if, as you say that 'marriage' is actually a baptism. John married in 1805 in Burbage, Leics. so could have been bap. in 1787.

Look forward to hearing from you

Tracey

Tracey..sorry..in fact the Church Gresley earlier records no longer exist, so i didn't find anything for you..But I think the 1787 entry is a good bet for his baptism........because i looked for a marriage in 1887 and 1878 in case it was wrongly dated..there asre none!! Curious.

Derek

Hi Ann (Glos)......I spent a very long time at matlock yesterday.was a madhouse!The only baptism two years either side of 1806 is HELEN Nightingale 29.12.1805..daughter of William and Elizabeth Nightingale!
I couldn't find their marriage although i only looked in the few years before 1805..so they perhaps married qu7ite a bit earlier of in a different place.
I did find a samuel Nightingale bapt 05.03 1806 son of Jeremiah and Silence Nightingale if it has any relevance to you.
My visit was in many ways unsatisfactory..so i'm going back next week and I'll look a bit harder for you

All the best

Derek

Hi Karen........Matlock was a madhouse!!!...I did get something for you however.....
Thomas morley m Lois Trueman(looks like trowman) 11.02.1776
Banns......winesses Samuel Inman and W Lee

Samuel Winchester jnr m.Elizabeth Morley off this parish 07.12.1794 Licence..witnesses Paul Parkinson and Jno Turner

Lois Morley widow of this parish m. George Street 04.06.1781 by Licence
witnesses Henry Taylor and Jethro Turner

Thomas Morley son of John..died Sept 1776..no other details

One other entry that might be of some interest Francis Inman son of francis died July 1776

I think the rest you have got..and i have checked most of it .....

Anything else i can do. please let me know

Derek

thank you for that Derek, that is the one I have but I find it strange that she is never ever referred to as Helen, not at either marriage or death. although I am aware the names are interchangeable. I am convinced that her parents were William and Mary, unless Elizabeth died and William married a Mary soon after.

If you go to Matlock and have time could you check to see if there is a death for Elizabeth Nightingale and a marriage soon after for William please? Thank you for all the work you are putting in for us, it is so much appreciated.

Ann
Glos

HI Derek

Thank you very much for looking for me. Well, if it was John's baptism in 1787 and it doesn't give his parents' names, I'm back to square one anyway!
I'll check Ashby and Measham when I next go to Leic. RO. Can i ask if you looked in the other places, Netherseal and Stretton, if you have the discs please? I can cross them off the list then, I can see this branch not getting any further back, lol.

Tracey

Hi Derek,

Tks so much for getting back to me with the info. Mostly it cfms what I have found.......

Just one point ..
I have Thomas Morley married to a Lois INMAN 1776. Could she have been married before to a Truman ?

I notice you have a Samuel Inman as a witness. From my research (which for this part of the family is IGI) I have Lois Inman bc 1749 in Dronfield dau of George Inman and she has a brother Samuel Inman b 1736. This makes Lois 27 when she marries Thomas Morley, easily enough time to have been married before. Also from my research Lois has a brother ,Septumis Inman b 1749 who marries and has a child called Lois Inman. b 1786 . Also Lois and George Street have a daughter Suannah Stree b1790 she marries and calls one of her children Rebecca Inman Sterland b1824. Also I have found that the offspring of the of Lois ,Thomas Morley and George Stree have put as middle names the maiden names of their mother and granmother, and with Lois being such an unusal name it stands out.... or maybe I am just on the wrong path...

Look forward to your comments/info..

Many tks once again for your help.
Cheers.
Karen of Brisbane

Karen.....so sorry..got my scribblesmixed up....Thomas Morley married Lois Inman 11.02.1776...........I got very tired......gorget the trueman

Derek

Karen..I am more than happy to look at the Dronfield records next time i go to Matlock......was a bit messy and i need to go back anyway..so prepare me a task sheet!! lol

Derek