Genealogy Chat

Hi Margaret..just a quickie for now. i'm off out for an hoour,so will be back later........Most of the Sleighs..loads of them..came from Hartington. A few,,and the Twiggs came from East Sterndale..might be fun trying to link up all the Sleighs,if I can!! I think it might double your Tree..and the Sleighs of hartington were SLIGHS in the 17th century.....

Later.

Derek

Hi Derek

I'm back on the trail of Twiggs and Sleighs, after a break on another family. You gave me John Twigg marrying Judith Sleigh, 29.6.1785 at Sterndale, and their children. I have found a Judith Sleigh ch Oct 1762 at Hartington, parents Henry Sleigh and Mary (believed Naden, married 30 Dec 1751 Hartington. You said (a while ago now) that you had a family for Judith Sleigh and lots of Twiggs, so any more info that you have much appreciated.

Margaret

Hi Derek
Do you have records for Belper, by any chance? Am looking for a Constance Archer b 1905.
Her mother was Annie Archer nee Unsworth, on her marriage cert. 1927 Constances states father as Samuel but Annie separated from him on 1901 census (can't find find them on 1911 census) It's a long shot that this could be the Constance I'm looking for.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Thanks

Hi Elizabeth..wow..you've done very well!!......I have loads of records..but the Hign Peak Registers only go back to 1631..Hayfield,Chinley,Cjapel-en-le-Frith..and the Glossop records not even that far..Would love to be able to go back that far........sorry.

All the best

Derek

Thank you for those Derek, much appreciated



Gert

Hi Gert..yes i have Crich carr Records...........

JOHN SPENCER married SARAH WRAGG at Crich 07.02.1803

They had the following children baptised as follows:

Sarah 14.04.1803
Ellen 21.08.1803 (i suspect theses were born together and baotised at different Times)
Hannah 18.04.1805 (died in infancy)
JOHN SPENCER 31.03.1807
Hannah Spencer 31.01.1808
Thats the nearest I can get to 1803..we have John Spence married 1803, and another died 1803!!

Hope i can help further.

All the best

Derek

Hi Derek

Would you have any records for Crich Carr,

I`m looking for the baptism of John Spencer born abt 1803 please,

Gert

OK Derek,thankyou so much for your help with Francis anyway .

Gill

Hi Fudge....I don't have the resources to prove that one way or the other

Derek

Hello Derek..thankyou so much for your help..not now ,as i can see you're
busy but if you can find anything on Francis i'd be chuffed..did he sew his seeds elsewhere??? i see you found a possible marriage for him.

thankyou again.

Gillxx

Fudge 1..Hi Gill absolutley the only one possible.....I looked at Darley Dale as a possible mistranscription....but nothing..........

Derek

Hello Derek. just popping back.....Francis Harvey from Darley Abbey..Cotton Spinner..was the Francis you found the only one that could fit the bill???the age is about right,,i'd love to point the finger at him..lol

Gillx

Hi Derek,

Dont forget my "Winchesters' when you go.

many tks as always....
Cheers
Karen of Brisbane

..sorry to be nag....

Hi Steven..no i didn't.things kept going wrong..but I will...sorry about any inconvenience.

Derek

Thankyou Derek.and i'll keep popping back!!! not sure who he married but certainly not Elizabeths mum Hannah.wonder if he's the daddy?

Gillx

Hi Gill.at the moment I have only a 1861 rcord of Francis Harvey born Darley 1811..married to Ann..(Hannah??)..who was a plasterer...

Will keep looking

Derek

Hi Derek...i'm almost too frightened to ask..lol
can i please take you back to John Askew who married a Hannah Gaunt 1810..Longford..she came as a package with daughter Elizabeth Gaunt 1834 Boylestone..


Well.. i came across Bastardy(hate that word)Papers
that state a child born in 1834..(same year as Elizabeth).was born to a Hannah Gaunt ..fathers name was Francis Harvey from Darley Abbey..Cotton Spinner.. is there any chance you can pick him up for me?
I really don't want to be accusing the wrong guy!! . he was a cotton spinner???

any help really appreciated ..as always.... have pmd you web site address...i know you have Elizabeth on your records....


(Ok Fudge.....Boylestone Records confirm the birth of Elizabeth Gaunt ilegitimate daughter of hannah Gaunt04.05.1834)


GillXX

Hi again Tina...just to further confuse you.. i have a JOHN HALL b.03.01.1810..son of Thomas Hall and Betty(Elizabeth?) christened Hayfield. near Glossop.and.......
JOHN HALL 27.01.1811.at St.Mary's Independent ,Glossop...son of SAMUEL HALL and MARY nee SHAW....

There are two betty Hall's on the 1841 Glossop Census..one age 33 one aged 34....

Discard these at your leisure!!

Derek

Thank you Derek. This is much appreciated. And you have already given me something to think about.

John Hall and Sally Robinson? My John Hall called his third daughter Sarah. Granted a very weak link, but a faint one nevertheless. I wonder what happened to John and Sally. There is a 60 year old John Hall living in Glossop in 1841 but he has a 15 year old John Hall living with him (no wife so probably a widower). The 15 year old could either be a son or a grandson. If we put consider the proposition that this is John Hall of John and Sally, and that their Jonathan is my John Hall, then the 15 year old is not his son, and since Jonathan was born 1809, say the next son was 2 years later, he would be a bit young to be the 15 year old's father. I suppose the 15 year old could be an illegitimate son of the eldest daughter. Hmm - all a bit tenuous. I will await further developments.

Thank you for your help

Tina

Hi Tina..i do have some Glossop and district records..not necessarily what you want or need.....but I do go to Matlock Records Office from time to time, so will look at the full docs there.
I send you information that I have found..it may be misleading or irrelevant.that's for you to decide.
My Glossop Records (Baptisms) are for the few years 1796-1813..but the marriage records go further back but end at 1800..which is a bit of a pain!!

I can tell you the Hall family where probably in the Glossop area from about 1640..and one branch of the family came from Sheffield..Wilmus (William) son of Laurent married a Glossop girl 05.02.1639

and a John Hall married snother local girl 10.05.1645.

In the period in which you are interested there are THREE separate HALL families..or three related branches maybe........There are no Johns.

However JOHN HALL and SALLY ROBINSON were married about 1807 and had two children before 1813

JONATHAN..(???????) born 17.12.1809 baptised Glossop 21.01.1810
BETTY baptised 01.11.1807.

I thunk the other two HALL families are probably irrlevant because there is no John..

But we have a JOSEPH HALL son of GEORGE HALL and MARY JACKSON..22.05.1808..along with at least four siblings.....

As I say......Jonathan COULD be the John you want...or not..but its the nearest I can get at Glossop.
I have nothing..like you..at Charlesworth
Will keep digging

All the best

Derek