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Who are we looking in for In Derbyshire?

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LaGooner

LaGooner Report 17 May 2010 22:31

Richard Measham of course. I will have to look up the record she sent me hang on and I will let you know her earliest Measham on her branch LOL

Derek

Derek Report 17 May 2010 22:28

Eyes light up to another challenge!!!!!! What Richards???

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 17 May 2010 22:14

I found that wedding on Freebmd web site . He married Ada Madeline James and lo and behold now I have found he then married Dorothy M Parkins in 1910. Still not a Lillian though.. Oh silly me yes I meant 1911 LOL. Senior moment again. I do think the Meashams all came from the original De Meishams as does a Measham I contact who is a geneaologist. We have not yet found the link between my Gilberts and her Richards !! ONE DAY sigh !!!! I have an email of the story of the De Meisham family of Repton it was a copy of the Burton Observer and Chronicle dated November 30 1974. On there they start with Gilbert De Meisham 1066 - 1130.

Derek

Derek Report 17 May 2010 19:00

Ji LA..you must have better BMD's than me cos all I have is Willoughby married Shardlow Derbys June 1905.you say 1910..do you mean 1911 census????

As for the Thorps..they appear to have been quite a large Farming family rather like st least one side of the Meashams..but at the moment i can't find the link between them.which appears to have been a marriage in about 1800.1810......I'm hoping that the Mary Measham involved might have been a sister of your elder Gilbert.......

It's a pity that the Repton Parish Records have never been transcribed onto disc, because then i could work out all the links......do you suppose that if we got back far enough then all the Meashams are in fact one family?? possibly back to the Measom/Measam name?

Derek.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 16 May 2010 18:15

Another poser for you..... I have looked on Free bmd for marriage of Willoughby TF Measham and found him marrying Ada Madeline James in Q2 1905. I also found death of Ada Measham June 1923 but on 1910 Willoughby's wife is named as Lillian is she one and the same she has the same birth year? Your valued opinion please Derek

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 16 May 2010 10:25

Thank you grovel grovel !!! LOL

Derek

Derek Report 15 May 2010 19:17

Humph!! oh ok...............

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 15 May 2010 18:01

Oh Derek you know you love it LOL. Right Parkers !!!! Where shall we start LOL. Do you think there may be a connection between the Parker on the census and Mary THF's mother? Can you get looking pretty please.

Derek

Derek Report 15 May 2010 12:17

Here we go!!..Thorps Parkers Dunnicliffe's..should have kept my mouth shut!..Bet i get lumbered with them!!! lol

Derek

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 15 May 2010 09:47

Thanks Derek of course there are no Gilberts they are in hiding LOL. I have photos of some of the headstones although there are loads in a thicket of trees that have been removed for safety and they are totally inaccessable unfortunately .I bet Gilbert was there laughing at us LOL .I have not made this Thorpe Connection yet although saying that I think THF boarded with Thorpe's on one census. I will go and take a look now and add edit

Edit. On 1851 he is a servant with the Thorps also noticed a Parker and a Dunnicliffe (Tunnicliffe????) on there. This needs further investigation me thinks !

Derek

Derek Report 15 May 2010 08:41

Morning LA.....Have eeided to get these Gravestones out of the way.
These are the sum total of all the Measham Inscriptions at St. Wystan's.
Clearly, now we know that various members of this notorious clan sided elsewherelike in Burton on trent, we haven't got them all..but these are the Repton ones.

You probably know these because you said you'd visited the scene..however, let's pretend you don't!!

Inside the church there is a Brass Plaque dedicating a window to the memory of ROBERT GEORGE MEASHAM and his wife EMMA HANNAH
It is the gift of Mary Measham who died 29.07.1914. It was dedicated 29.07.1904
This is officially MI no CH31

Said Robert George buried 27.10.1872 aged 67 and Emma hannah 12.12.1864 aged 57 are in PLOT D134


D259 and D260 contain SAMUEL MEASHAM 26.06.1817 and his wife MARY MEASHAM nee Thorp 12.09.1844 aged 67. and their daughter Mary THORP 12.09.1844 aged 67

This is interesting becasue i keep coming up against the THORPS in later measham history.

PLOT D133... THOMAS MEASHAM 15.02.1854 aged 74 and his wife Ann 17.02.1853 aged 5



Plot C124..ANN ELIZABETH MEasham 04.01.1900 aged 70

C121 GEORGE MEASHAM 10.01.1858

PLOT C122 his wife ANN REBECCA 07.05.1862 aged 59

PLOT C123 GEORGE MEASHAM 15.01.1830 aged 60

PLOT 237 WILLIAM MEASHAM 01.03.1880 aged 74 and his wife ELIZABETH 16.11.1889 aged 83
PLOT C119 DOROTHY MEASHAM 10.07.1835 wife of:

PLOT C120 RICHARD MEASHAM 20.02.1821 aged 65, and their son Richard 12.11.1803 aged 4

MARY MEASHAM (12.03.1914) who deicated the window and her sister Emma Doroth 03.04.1900 are buried together.

Sort that lot out!!! (Notice no Gilberts!!)

Derek.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 14 May 2010 22:29

Hi Derek, thanks for that I got a bit confused as I thought Mary Ann Parker would have been too old to have THF. I can now put this info correctly on my tree. Yes I have found the children of THF and Emily although obviously have not written them in yet until I confirmed info with you. This and other info will keep me busy updating for a little while and then I will gedcom to this site.LOL.

Derek

Derek Report 14 May 2010 12:12

Hi Gooner.you're not waffling.....Gilbert did marry Mary Meakin....I have her death from Parish Records direct..ignore Ancestry Trees..and he married Mary Ann Parker and they had THF measham..who indeed did marry Emily..I'm glad you didn't already know that!!

Still looking for Mary Ann's maiden name!!!

Still haven't put on your MI's from St.Wystan's...bear with me.
EDIT 13.17..have you got the children of THF and Emily?? they moved to Etwall and he died 1906 Burton on trent.

Derek.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 13 May 2010 22:28

nudge for Chrissie.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 13 May 2010 21:30

Sorry to hear you have been poorly Derek. . I had no inkling that Emily married Thomas H F !!. As she linked in through another little twig of tree. Is this now right as this is how I see it.
Gilbert married Mary Meakin who then died in 1830 ?. He remarried Mary Parker in 1831 and had Thomas H F.

EDIT !!!! or according to another tree Mary Meakin did not die until 1860 so was she Thpmas H F's Mum ?

PS see you did shine LOL

Derek

Derek Report 13 May 2010 15:19

Hello Gooner...sorry not to get back to you..not been well....pity you already know about Emily Foster.because you've robbed me of a chance to shine!!

I bet you already know this but:-....Emily Foster daughter of Richard and Miriam..married Thomas Myring..don't know where or when, but that is no longer important.

By 1861 she is widowed and living back with her parents

In 1871 she is married a again to aThomas MEURAW aged 38 living with her daughter Emily Myring aged 11 and her widowed mother.

So i said Whoa this is my pain in the neck Gooner, and that name is ever so like MEASHAM!!
So i checked it out and of course it IS Thomas Horatio Frederick Measham baptised Repton 05.01.1834 son of our Favourite(!!) Gilbert and Mary

Would be great if you didn't already know this,,but of course you do........

Derek xx

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 9 May 2010 22:58

Derek, can you see if you can find who Emily Foster married June 1858, Derbyshire possibly Etwall / Findern. I think it may have been Thomas Myring. Many thanks.

Edit Derek it's ok have found them thanks anyway

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 9 May 2010 19:55

LOL Derek not so many nightmares as me I bet !!!. Thanks for this next batch maybe I will get nearer to linking them all up one day.

Nearest to Meashams at Measham is Measham at Coalville Leics LOL. Enjoy your scotch.

Information very much appreciated .

Derek

Derek Report 9 May 2010 19:40

LA further to my previous message.....I add these for you perusal:

Repton Birth GILBERT 11.12.1814 son of gilbert and Mary (Meakin???)

Gilbert born 1776 married mary meakin 05.10.1801....you already kniow this one.

Yopu might be interested in one or two Manchester cathedral happenings..

Gilbert Measham married Isabella Potter 23.12.1827 their son Gilbert 21.12.1834 married a Mary Ashton....at manchester Cathedral.

There is one more Gilbert born and married at St.Werbergh's Derby...

Been having nightmares about these bleedin' meashams for a year now!!! lol..have this perverted need to find Measham's at measham!! (Leics)

Derek

Derek Report 9 May 2010 19:35

Ok Gooner....more mischief.........Burials at Repton:- MEASHAM'S of course.

07.05.1862 Ann Rebecca aged 59
25.09.1864 Mary aged 83
08.12.1864 Emma Hannah aged 57
19.09.1865 Ann aged 63
24.10.1866 Martha Ann aged 2
09.12.1866 Harriet aged 34 (Meakin crossed out Measham inserted!!)..you might wonder how many times that might have happened or remained uncorrected)

02.06.1867 John aged 55
07.11.1867 John infant
14/03.1870 Sarah aged 40 (from Burton on trent)
08.10.1872 Robert aged 67
23.07.1873 Elizabeth aged 67
27.06.1874 William infant
31.01.1877 Henry aged 61
21.10.1880 Jane aged 73
17.01.1885 Walter aged 2
22.07.1888 William measham Smith aged 7months
23.11.1889 Elizabeth (of Willington) aged 82
05.01.1897 Ann aged 88
16.03.1899 Leslie john aged 3
08.01.1900 Ann Elizabeth aged 70

The age at death will give you the birth date and i'm sure you're clever enough to match them upo with their spouses!!

Derek..Monumental inscriptios to follow when I've had a large Scotch!1 xx

Derek