Genealogy Chat

I am curious that that marriage registration for Alfred Rivers and martha Weavens only has 2 names showing ........ on freebmd.org.uk


There are usually 4 or 8 names per page


This means that there are some names missing, and it may well be that the missing names might possibly include Martha Prior




sylvia

There is apparently a Martha Weavan born ca 1844 .......... but in Lambeth, Surrey.

There is a Public Family Tree on ancestry that has her in it ..... unfortunately, it only shows her upto 1951, when she is living in Southwark St Saviour, London with her parents and brother Thomas (on the census it is shown as Wevan, but the tree definitely has Weavan).



am I just muddying the water even more????????????/




sylvia

Hello Joanne. When you post something on here we all see it so don't worry.

If you could answer the questions though, that would be really helpful.

a) Do you have Emily's death certificate?

b) Where did you get Emily's death information from?





Hi Annabel (if you're still with us) , isn't it strange about that Weavens marriage - may I ask if you have seen any other with that name on your cd?


Cx.

Hi Im not sure if you can see all thelinks that I have sent to Cynthia but I do still believe that it is Martha Prior born Wantage apr.may.june 1843 V1 254 and died jan.feb.march aged 57 wantage 2c 271. I thought it best to clarify this first if I could before I moved onto Emily/ What do you think and witch way would you work. do you want to see my tree as far as I know it? thanks for help. me out tonight so check in later thanks Jo

Hi. Thanks again for all the help. I too am busy today so I may have to give this a miss till much later. but if it helps I found Martha Prior in 1843 births apr.may.june Wantage V1 page 254. I still think it is Prior I have looked at every census so far and its her. there is also a death record I found today that says Martha Rivers died aged 57 wantage 2c 271. jan. feb. march 1900. see you later jo

I agree Meg. I am concerned that the death record you have Joanne, may not be your Emily Rivers.


Joanne, do you have your grandmother's death certificate?



On the 1871 census it does say Martha Prior but I cannot find a marriage between an Alfred Rivers and a Martha Prior BUT, there is the marriage between Alfred Rivers and Martha Weavens.

I cannot find a birth for this Martha Weavens. A mystery lady indeed.



Will have another think. Cx.

It is Emily's age at death that is bothering me - in 1912 she should be 44 not 54, if she is the daughter of Alfred and Martha (Prior/Weavens - to be investigated further). The GRO record definitely says 54, but we all know mistakes can be made.

Joanne, does the burial record at Didcot give her age? They should be able to tell you who else is buried in the grave (even if it were a pauper's grave, it might give some clues).

Am busy for the next few hours, back later.

Hi Joanne, I haven't deserted you but am a bit busy. Will hopefully be back later this afternoon and maybe we should start at the beginning again. Cx.

Hi Can't believe I am talking to someone in Oz amazing. I have family there to but Im not even going down that road ha! I was most interested to read what you put but I have an 1871 census from Woolstone and the reason I said she was Martha Prior was that is what it states on that census. I have no idea where Martha Weavens??? fits in unyet it all looks like the right people and the ages of the children etc all fit. Have to go work but good chatting with you and thanks for help. Jo Sleep well

Hi I have just looked through the census information that I have and in 1871 in township of Woolstone. Alfred Rivers is living with Martha PRIOR and children emily henry and ann. So where does Weavens come in please? i have to go work but baack later thanks.

Joanne a few years ago I was a beginner made lots of mistakes, but with help at times from some great people on here, and joing ancestry,and other sites, seaching Free BMD I now able to help others if I can, not as quick as most, and being in OZ wake up when you are going to bed.





My CD I got from the Oxfordshire family history society you can order on line.

from my CD
Woolstone was a chapel of ease under Uffington which until 1974 was in the county of Berkshire then Oxfordshire, the registers of Woolstone commence in 1849 before that in Uffingdon

I do not have Uffingdon records


cheers Annabel

Where can I get a cd like that. You all seem to be very up and informed on this site. its making me feel very inadequate ha! . I can't believe that people out there have the time to help plebs like me I seem to be on here all the time and still not getting it right. Thanks so much for your help Jo

Hi Matha rivers d.o.b 1843 qtr 2 district wantage vol. v1 page 254.
death aged 57. year 1900 qtr 1 district wantage vol 2c page 271 . now im well and truly muddled. thanks Jo

Hi Joanne

I have a cd of some of the Faringdon parish records, Woolstone is on it,


Baptisms 1849-1988
Marriages 1849- 1981
Burials 1849-1988


if I can help you any more just ask .

cheers Annabel

Hi I will ring the record office today and try and put a stop on martha prior I was sure she was the right one, but after looking at Annabel information its now made me doubt it. I must slow down and start again. thanks Jo

Hi Annabel. Thanks so much this is all a muddle now but i think you have got it. could you tell me where you found the record above please. i think my problem is i am only joined on genes. which site allows you to look at this info. thanks so much Joanne

Very interesting Joanne.

Joanne, I don't think I would have rushed to order certs for Martha Rivers nee Prior. We have no idea who she is. She is Martha Weavens as far ad we can make out.

Who is Matha Rivers nee Prior? What birth certificate have you ordered for her? And a death certificate ordered too. When did this Martha Rivers die? Who is she? What exactly have you sent for?

I appreciate how exciting all this is, but you do have to try to get it right.

Please do let us have the reference numbers you have used.

Margaret

Hi Joanne

found these on the woolstone parish records
1 marriage 5 baptisms no burials

marriage oct 17th 1863

Alfred Rivers father John
Martha Weavens father John

witness Albert Dawson, Joseph Hicks

Baptisms
children of Alfred and Martha Rivers


Emily May 26th 1867

also
Ann Feb 25th 1866
Henry July 11th 1869
Percy Nov 26th 1871
George June 25th 1874

cheers Annabel

Hi thanks so much for all your help. phew you have been busy. Yes my grandfather is Joseph E Rivers died in Bideford 1960. His mother is definitely Emily as I have his birth certificate and it states Father Unknown. She signed it with a X. I am sure my Dad will have the marriage certificate to so will try to get that tomorrow. There is a sister to Emily called Ann she was 5 on the 1871 census so that could be right that he went to live with them. My Dad seems to have got the wrong Emily as I posted to Cynthia think he got carried away love him he is 83 and trying hard on the net when I cannot. today has been spent checking and rechecking. We have now ordered a birth +death certificate for Martha Rivers nee Prior. Unfortunately we still cannot order one for Alfred as we only have him being born in 1841on the jan/feb/march birth records . it says Rivers Alfred St.saviours vol 1V PAGE 494 sup.registrars office 274. I think if I can get birth + death cert for him to then I may have a better start. This is all so new to me and I am just not sure what or where to look next. Can't thankyou enough for your help . Jo