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Maureen

Maureen Report 24 Aug 2012 20:42

Hi,

I have the death (1990) and marriage certifictaes of Edith Maud Dickens (formerly Wallace) born March 1906 Middlesbrough but cannot find her birth record and she doesnt appaear on the 1911 census.

Please can someone check this for me?

Thanks :-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Aug 2012 20:51

Possible? Do you have her parents' names?

1911 census transcription details for: Howard Orphan Home For Girls
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN31667 RD581 SD4 ED8 SN9999
Reg. District: Kendal
Sub District: Milnthorpe
Parish:
Enum. District: 8
Address:
County: Westmorland
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WALLACE, Edith Inmate F 6 1905 School Girl Yorkshire Middlesbr

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Aug 2012 20:53

Are you sure about her year of birth?

Civil Registration event: Birth
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Name: WALLACE, Edith Maud
Registration district: Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1904
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 550

Maureen

Maureen Report 24 Aug 2012 20:59

Thanks for looking that up, the census is correct but her year of birth is definatley 1906. Parents are Robert Charles Wallace and Amelia Goodchild.

Thanks.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2012 21:07

Are you basing her year of birth on the death record? If so then the year given is only as accurate as the informant's knowledge. People often get the day and month correct but can be out by several years.

I'd say that the 1904 birth looks like a good bet. It's the only one in Middlesbrough for that name from 1900 to 1910.



Kath. x

Maureen

Maureen Report 24 Aug 2012 21:11

On her marriage certificate it (1943) she is 37 making her born in 1906, also the informant on her death certificate was her daughter.

Thanks.

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Aug 2012 21:11

So her parents.

1901 census transcription details for: 17, Chipchase Street, Middlesbrough
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4581
Folio: 139
Page: 18
Reg. District: Middlesbrough
Sub District: Middlesbrough
Parish: Middlesbrough
Enum. District: 62
Ecclesiastical District: St Barnabas
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 17, Chipchase Street, Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire (North riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WALLACE, Robert C Head Married M 32 1869 Bricklayers Laborer
W Hartlepool, Durham
WALLACE, Amelia Wife Married F 22 1879
Guisbro, Yorkshire



and 1911? This would explain why Edith is in an orphanage.


1911 census transcription details for: Portland Convict Prison, PORTLAND CONVICT PRISON
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN12372 RD263 SD3 ED9 SN9999
Reg. District: Weymouth
Sub District: Portland
Parish: Portland
Enum. District: 9
Address: Grove Portland
County: Dorsetshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WALLACE, Robert Charles Convict Widower M 44 1867 Black Smith General Durham West Hartlepool


Amelia's death??

Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: WALLACE, Amelia Augusta
Registration district: Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1907
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 27
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 444



I think the birth I found is possibly Ethel. The certificate would obviously prove or disprove it, but it is up to you whether you're willing to chance it or not.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 Aug 2012 21:14

On my grandmother's marriage certificate she gives her age as 28 when she was only 23. My grandfather said he was 39 but he was 42. People often tell lies when marrying and sometimes even family don't know a person's age.

Even my grandfather never knew his wife's real age. He had it wrong on her headstone!!

Only by buying the certificate will you know for sure.

Kath. x

Maureen

Maureen Report 24 Aug 2012 21:17

Thank you.