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Hi Susan

Thank you for your help as I live in Australia and this Matthew Moore well I have hit a brick wall with him so has my Cousin. Is it possible that you can look up the Mariner records as I have BT 115 but it has on it enter before he was a mariner in 1832 so he could of been in ships from the age of 11 or 12 he never on census and his wife was Eliza Jones some thing happen to her as the youngest children were with there grandmother Lucy Jones in the 1851 or 1861 census as she was a Lodging House Keeper in Wisbech. She had William and Mary with her and they are the 2 youngest and we do not know what happen to the rest of the family. any help you can help me would be lovely


Sandra

Hi Sandra

It is very possible that Mathew did not tell the truth when marrying ...he would not be the first..... as you said they married in a hurry.

Many people said they were of age when they married but were not, I have had this myself with my Grt Grandparents.

Have you thought it could be possible he put his age up to join the navy in the first place and carried it on in marriage.

Have you checked this Death Reg out .

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Mathew Moore Name: Mathew Moore
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Alcester
Volume: 6d
Page: 411

No birth for mathew in 1810 that I can see.,will have a look around a bit more.

Sue :-)

thank you Susan but on Cambridge records of concent it gave his age above 22 which would give of birth around late 1809 to 1810 at the time of marriage in 1832 Matthew gave from Wisbech but as a mariner he could of said that at the time of marriage. they apply for permission on the 25 March and married on the 27 march and as I understand he was a mariner befor he met Eliza Jones so he could be on the ships from the age of 12years Due to what I know I don't think the year of birth could not be 1812 but it would be nice to think those were his parents

Just a possible.

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Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 TranscriptionFirst Name: MATTHEW Last Name: MOORE Collections from: United Kingdom Country: England Record set: Diocese of Chester Bishop's Transcripts of Baptisms c1600-1910 County: Cheshire Year: 1812 Birth Year: 1812 .

Mother Mary Moore
Father Joseph Mathew Moore.

Possible child of the couple.

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England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First Name: MATTHEW Last Name: MOORE Collections from: United Kingdom Gender: M Country: England Category: Life Events (BDMs) Record collection: Births & baptisms Record set: England & Wales births 1837-2006 County: Cambridgeshire Year: 1838 Mother's Maiden Name: District: WISBECH Birth Year: 1838 DOR: Event Quarter: 1 District Number: Entry Number: Line Number: 114 Page: 157 Volume: 14

Yes, not seeing a Cambs. Birth...

Chris :)

Hi All my replies

I have all the information at you have given me as for Merchant navy seamen records chris I got the Bt 115 while I was in the UK earlier this year. also went to Kew and only had time to fine what I already had I need to go back to before 1845 records as he was a mariner in 1832 and possible before that time. I also found the records on familysearch. I have not found any birth records for him in Cambridgeshire for that year of birth but found a Matthew Moore in Kellington York Christening on 21 Jan 1810 with parents James Moore and Hannah.

Even in March where the records for St Peter Wisbech Cambridgeshire are kept do not have any record of a Matthew Moore born in 1810 so I becoming to think that he was born somewhere else and when his ship went in to the port of Wisbech and met Eliza Jones and married in a hurry as they apply for a lience on the 25 of March 1832 and married on the 27 March 1832 and because of that I think that is the reason he gave Wisbech as place of birth .

Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941 (Find My Past)

Last name:Moore
First names:Matthew
Age:35
Day of birth:
Month of birth:
Year of birth:1810
Place of birth:Wisbech
County/country of birth:Cambridgeshire
Card type:
Discharge number:
Identity certificate no.:
Series:BT115
Date range:1845-1854
Piece number:8

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Chris :)

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"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941," Matthew Moore
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name: Matthew Moore
event type: Military Service
event year range: 1845-1854
event place: United Kingdom
birthplace: Cambridgeshire
birth year: 1810
film number: 1562763
digital folder number: 004650273


found here

https://familysearch.org/#form=historical_records

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/officermerchantnavy.htm

(not sure if above link helps, National Archives, Kew)

Chris :)

(was there another 'Thread' relating, seems familiar)


County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 366
MarriageDate 27 Mar 1832
GroomForename Matthew
GroomSurname MOORE
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Eliza
BrideSurname JONES
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename William
WitnessOneSurname EGLESTONE
WitnessTwoForename Harriett
WitnessTwoSurname JONES
Notes By licence.
FileNumber 19653

(from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

My 2great grandfather Matthew Moore was a mariner and I cannot fine any records on him even census so I do not know who his parents were but he married a Eliza Jones on 27 March 1832 in St Peter Wisbech Norfolk Cambridgeshire. My cousin in England went to National Maritime Museum in Greenwich and only found one record BT 115 which had on it enter before so any records dated from 1822 to 1842 and I was wandering if you have any of those records on your site

Sandra