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Ancestry lookup please?

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Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 1 Apr 2013 02:33

This will be a long shot...

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980:

Mary Murphy born 1813 (+/- 5 yrs) died 1856 (+/- 5 yrs).

I'm hoping to find her in the St Giles area - either Duke Street or Vere Street.

Please make my Easter wish come true! ;-)

Gai

Gai Report 1 Apr 2013 04:38

Paul,

I found the Mary murphy below on the 1851 census. She is unmarried and living in Church lane.

The are two other Mary Murphy's in the St Giles area and one is a widow and the other is with her husband.

I'm sure someone who is better at research than me might have better luck if this is the wrong Mary.


Name: Mary Murphy
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: St Giles in the Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles North
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Piece: 1509
Folio: 102
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Murphy 35
Johanna Murphy 32
Mary Murphy 40
Ellen Murphy 5
Patrick Murphy 12
Nicholas Stokes 80
Joseph Donesan 27
Johanna Donesan 1 Mo
Michael Donesan 30
Mary Donesan 28
Mary Donesan 1 Day
Joseph Donesan 30
Mary Donesan 22
Anna Donesan



Gai

K

K Report 1 Apr 2013 07:35

This one is rather too young and living at Parker St

Name: Mary Murphy
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: 1854
Burial Date: 3 Sep 1854
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Giles In The Fields
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 1 Apr 2013 08:36

Thanks both. I already know that in 1851 Mary was living with her tailor husband Thomas and 12-year old daughter in Duke Street St Giles. She may have moved elsewhere in London after that. I was specifically looking for her death between then and her daughter's wedding in 1858. I don't have an Ancestry subscription but I was able to see in the index that there are five people fitting the description who died in London in 1851, 1852 and three in 1855.

To repeat, the search is...

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980:

Mary Murphy born 1813 (+/- 5 yrs) died 1856 (+/- 5 yrs).

Many thanks.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Apr 2013 10:26

Any good?

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Mary Murphy

Mary Murphy
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1852
Burial Date: 14 Mar 1852
Age: 40
(Abode Paul St)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Apr 2013 10:35

Mary Murphy
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1859
Burial Date: 30 Dec 1859
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Parish Chapel
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Register

Married (possibly a stonemason) Buried from the Workhouse infirmary. Died from Philhisis? ie TB?

Mary Murphy
Record Type: Death
Estimated Death Date: 1855
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

That appears to be the Infirmary Record for the transcription 30 Dec burial above
...........

Mary Murphy
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1851
Burial Date: 9 Nov 1851
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
(abode Queen Street)
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 1 Apr 2013 10:52

Thanks +++DetEcTive+++

The first one looks the most likely, as Paul Street is not far from her 1851 address. It's just over the other side of Holborn, near to the British Museum.

Of course it's possible that Mary and her husband emigrated. She had already travelled the world with her first husband.

For your interest, in 1845 she was returning home with her children as one of two female paying passengers on a cargo ship when the captain went berserk and attacked his crew with a cutlass and bayonet. She appeared as a prosecution witness in his trial, which was a headline-grabber across the world.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 1 Apr 2013 11:00

There's only one way to confirm it, the Death Certificate.

Possibles could be

Deaths Mar 1852 (>99%)
Murphy Mary Marylebone 1a 345
MURPHY Mary St Giles 1b *

Deaths Jun 1852 (>99%)
Murphy Mary Marylebone 1a 271