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2011 Census Missing ninety-somethings

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KenSE

KenSE Report 3 Jul 2013 08:10

Just in case this has been missed, it appears that the 2011 census shows fewer ninety somethings than was expected. It seems that life expectancy figures may have been over optimistic.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23126814

Graham

Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 11:06

It goes to highlight the difficulty in trying to predict how long people will live for

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 3 Jul 2013 12:25

Or they are all spending this time of the year in hotter climes.....

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 3 Jul 2013 12:32

More people opting for a Living Will or even the Liverpool Pathway?

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 3 Jul 2013 12:56

The Liverpool Pathway - not a pleasant thought, certainly not the way I would want to go.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 3 Jul 2013 13:33

Ken, I bet the government don't rethink their strategy on raising the pension age with this new information now being available.

Lots of scary myths going around about The Liverpool Pathway i'm afraid

If i'm in my last days with no hope of recovering then the Liverpool Pathway is fantastic compared to how things used to be and allows you to die in peace and with dignity

Nothing dignified about unnecessary pain and suffering that can last for as long as the condition take to kill you

Roy

KenSE

KenSE Report 3 Jul 2013 13:52

Roy, that's a good point about pensions, but as you say, it is unlikely they will have a rethink.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 3 Jul 2013 18:05

My mum was ill and put on the Liverpool Pathway.
Whilst it was definitley the correct decision ( yes, we were asked for consent), mum took longer to pass away than any of us expected!

It wasn't the fault of the staff, but our interpretation of the care plan.
We expected that she would pass away very quickly and peacefully.
It was very peaceful, but she survived for almost a week.

Blue1

Blue1 Report 4 Jul 2013 12:40

My father suffered a brain hemorage in 2007.

He was taken into hospital. We were told that there was no hope of recovery and was offered a hospice,we didn't want him moved about.

We opted for the Liverpool pathway. We had a room to ourselves so that we could all stay with him in turn day and night and we took part in his comfort care.

The nursing staff were fabulous to us five girls and my Mum and my dad was given everything he needed when he needed it including any meds etc withour the need for waiting for Dr's concent.

He lived for six days but was not conscious.

When he passed they were very kind and staff from the bereavement dep came with tea and support for us.

My Dad's passing was as good as it could be in his situation and he didn't suffer at all.

So I have no probs with the Liverpool system if you find yourself in our situation.

My Mum spent the last two days of her life in a Hospice which was more difficult for us due to the size of our family. There were more rules and regs,obviously for the consideration of the other patients, it was hard.

The Hospice was great for her,but not for us as we all would have liked more access to her at all times, which wasn't possible as the Hospice was very full and we would have disrupted the running of it at night time.

Blue