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Maybe worth considering is that the only person describing Selina as "daughter-in-law" is Selina herself.

She may just have been living with Richard Fieldhouse.

The 1871 census is confusing. There's actually a double line between the Hobbins family and the rest meaning that they're a seperate household. However George Fieldhouse is listed as son. (Son of whom?)

1871 England Census
about Martha Fieldhouse Name: Martha Fieldhouse
[Martha Hobbins]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Hobbins
Mother's Name: Sarah Hobbins
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household Schedule Number: 30
Piece: 2938
Folio: 40
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Hobbins 32
Sarah Hobbins 30
Edith M Hobbins 1
George Fieldhouse 31 , son, married
Harriet Fieldhouse 16 , sister, unmarried
Martha Fieldhouse 30 , daughter-in-law, married
Amelia Hacking 35 , sister, married
Thomas Hacking 32 , brother-in-law, married

Do you have the 1916 marriage certificate?

For ref.

Is this the family 1881..??

Event Place: Wednesfield, Staffordshire, England
Head Martha Fieldhouse F 40 Wolverhampton,
Daughter Harriet Fieldhouse F 9 Wolverhampton,
Son George Fieldhouse M 8 Wolverhampton,
Son Richard Fieldhouse M 7 Wolverhampton,
Daughter Ellen Fieldhouse F 4 Wolverhampton,
Son John Fieldhouse M 3 Wolverhampton,
Daughter Jane Fieldhouse F 0 Heath Town, Staffordshire,

Lodger George Griffiths M 48 Ludlow, Shropshire,
Lodger Sylvia Griffiths F 50 Ludlow, Shropshire,

Martha is listed as a Widow /Washerwoman

The marriage of Martha Susannah MARTIN to a George Fieldhouse took place Wolverhampton ..Reg march Quarter 1871 6b 648.

Havent found a death for George F.

Are you trying to rule out the possibility that he is actually the son of a Mr Roberts, and his mother has told him this at some stage?

What is his father's name on his wedding certificate?

Selina Bagnall was her maiden name, she was a widow , married name Webb, sorry I should have said that

This is the same person, Margee.


UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945 about Ronald Roberts
Name: Ronald Roberts
Given Initials: R F
Rank: Private
Death Date: 23 Nov 1944
Number: 206957
Birth Place: Leeds
Residence: Leeds
Branch at Enlistment: Other Corps
Theatre of War: Western Europe Campaign, 1944/45
Regiment at Death: Royal Army Service Corps
Branch at Death: Other Corps

Is this a son killed in WW2?

ROBERTS, RONALD FIELDHOUSE
Rank:Private
Service No:T/206957
Date of Death:23/11/1944
Regiment/Service:Royal Army Service Corps
Grave ReferenceI. A. 1.
CemeterySCHOONSELHOF CEMETERY
Additional Information:

I thought he married a Selina Bagnall. Did they both change their names?

Kath. x

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Roberts Richard Webb Mt. Drayton 6a 1425
Webb Selina Roberts Mt.Drayton 6a 1425


Andy

Edit Sorry posted a marriage and realised it was the wrong pairing.

I can't find a marriage for a Selina Bagnall in 1916.

Kath. x

My great uncle was born Richard Fieldhouse in 1874 in the Wolverhampton area. He still goes under that name in the 1911 census, now living in Birkenhead as a single man. However, in 1916 he married a Selina Bagnall as Richard Roberts and used that name from then on.

How do I find out when and why he changed his surname.

I know I am correct as I have purchased his mother's death certificate - Martha Susannah Fieldhouse and present at her death in 1918 was her daughter in law, Selina Roberts.