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I wonder if anyone can help me find any information i.e. where he was born, parents, etc. , for Mathew Thompson. The 1841 census in Cumberland has him as 25 born 1816 in Scotland. He was married on 5th July 1838 in Cumberland there is no age given on marriage certificate it just states `of full age`. Father on marriage certificate is Matthew Thompson. Mathew died in Alston Cumberland on 27th December 1845 the death certificate gives his age as 32, if that age is correct it would mean he was born in 1813. Informant of death is Thomas Thompson, don`t know if its a relation. Appreciate any help on this. Ken

just for info


Mathew Thompson
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name Mathew Thompson
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Alston, Cumberland, England
Residence Note Nenthead, West
Gender Male
Age 25-29
Age (Original) 25
Birth Year (Estimated) 1812-1816
Birthplace Scotland
Registration District Alston & Garrigill
Book Number 9
Parish Alston
County Cumberland
Page Number 25
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 171/14
Affiliate Record Type Household
Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace
Mathew Thompson M 25-29 Scotland
Ann Thompson F 20-24
Fairless Thompson M 0 Cumberland
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M73N-NYW : 30 October 2015), Mathew Thompson, Alston, Cumberland, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

these two came up on family search

Matthew Thomson

Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
6 May 1813
christening:
25 May 1813
, MUIRKIRK, AYR, SCOTLAND
residence:
1813
Muirkirk, Ayrshire, Scotland
father:
Matthew Thomson
mother:
Anne Haiton

Matthew Thomson

Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
4 September 1813
christening:
12 September 1813
FORTEVIOT, PERTH, SCOTLAND
father:
Matthew Thomson
mother:
Jean Rintoul

Name Jean Rintoul
Gender Female
Christening Date 18 Jul 1779
Christening Place FORTEVIOT,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 13 Jul 1779
Father's Name John Rintoul
Mother's Name Elizabeth Martin
Citing this Record

"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1JN-K8M : 2 January 2015), Jean Rintoul, 13 Jul 1779; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,353.

Thanks Maddie, i`ve seen these births but not with the parents names, certainly helps.

clutching at straws

Matthew Thomson

Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
christening:
28 December 1780
DUNDONALD, AYR, SCOTLAND
father:
James Thomson
mother:
Elizabeth Weir

in the 1841 Scotland Census
Record Image No Image
Text-only collection

Report issue

Name: Matthew Thomson
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Dundonald
County: Ayrshire
Address: Dundon Old Village
Occupation: Wright
Parish Number: 590
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Thomson 60
James Thomson 30
David Thomson 28
Janet Thomson 20
Ann Moore 15

1851
Name: Matthew Thomson
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Relationship: Head
Spouse: Mary Thomson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundonald, AYR
Parish Number: 590
Civil Parish: Dundonald
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Dundonald
County: Ayrshire
Address: Schoolhouse
Occupation: Carpenter Master Employing 10 Men
ED: 2
Page: 8
Household schedule number: 45
LINE: 6
Roll: CSSCT1851_131
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Thomson 70
Mary Thomson 63
James Thomson 41
Elizabeth Moore 34 - daughter
Margt Moore 13
John Moore 10
Matthew Moore 7

Don't forget that in the 1841 census, ages of anyone over 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5, so someone listed as 25 could be anywhere between 29 and 25. So born c1811-1816 depending on when their birthday fell.

Also when people gave an age i.e. 26, that would be taken from the census year
1851-26 = 1825, but more chance of them being born 1824.

As well as the Forteviot and Muirkirk baptisms posted by Maddie, there's also this possibility:

THOMSON
MATHEW

MATHEW THOMSON/HELEN COCHRANE FR211 (FR211)
0
16/06/1814
656/
10 425
Stonehouse, Lanarkshire

Is this man the brother.?
It appears to be the family of Thomas Thompson and Isabella Liverick, married Alston 1834
1st son is called Matthew

Thomas Thompson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Alston
Hundred: Leath
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Household Members:
Name Age

Thomas Thompson 30 B Scotland. Lead Miner
Isabella Thompson 25
Matthew Thompson 5
Ann Thompson 3
Thomas Thompson 2 Mo


Head of Household Thomas seems to have died in Alston 1849 as his wife is a widow at 1851

Isabella Thompson 35
Matthew Thompson 15
Ann Thompson 12
Thomas Thompson 9
Gabella Thompson 7 ( Isabella)
Mary Thompson 4

Thanks again Maddie, there are so many Mathew Thompsons in Scotland so it is clutching at straws, Mathews occupation on his sons Mathews marriage certificate is miner. I shall look into the info you have given me thanks. Ken

Thanks GlasgowLass that certainy could be the connection between Thomas and Mathew.

Thanks everyone f or your help with Mathew, his brother is Thomas, can anyone trace the marriage of their parents Mathew and Anne Haiton (Hayton), thanks Ken

No idea of things, but seems to be quite a few Thompsons coming up on google search, Alston...

Chris :)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574439.0

(if this was her posted earlier, didn't seem to relate to query)

Isabella Thompson,widow

admin with will of Isabella Thompson,late of Wellgill in the parish of Alston,in the parish of Cumberland ,
who died 5th of September 1882 at Wellgate was granted at Carlisle to John Armstrong of West Nenthead near Alston,in the said county yeoman and George Thompson,of Nenthead near Alston lead miner the grandson the residuary legatees in trust,


Deaths Sep 1882 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Thompson Isabella 66 Alston 10b 266

I can't locate a marriage for the parents but, could these men be further siblings of Mathew and Thomas?

Both Lead Miners, both born Scotland.


House or street is called Foulard Top

William Thompson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Alston
Hundred: Leath
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

William Thompson 30
Margaret Thompson 27
Mathew Thompson 3
Joseph Thompson 1

**In the next property at Foulard Top


George Thompson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Alston
Hundred: Leath
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Anna Shield 14
George Thompson 35 B Scotland
Thomas Thompson 15


Family of William & Margaret Thompson is still in Alston at 1851.
William Thompson 40
Margaret Thompson 37
Matthew Thompson 13
Joseph Thompson 11
John Thompson 9
Ann Thompson 6
Agnes Thompson 5
Mary Thompson 2


Margaret is widowed at 1861

Yes, these two are siblings I found their births and their parents are Mathew and Anne, their is also a sister. I've tried everywhere and can't find a marriage either. Thanks for your help. Ken