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First name(s) Cicely Marshall
Place Grimsby, St James
Last name Spencer
County Lincolnshire
Sex Unknown
Country England
Birth year 1909
Archive Lincolnshire Archives
Birth date 12 Mar 1909
Page 16
Baptism year 1909
Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms
Baptism date 31 Mar 1909
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) -
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Amy
Collections from England, Great Britain
Description St James

No father named, so that's a dead end. Sometimes vicars included name of possible father if they knew the family well


Spencer
Cecily Marshall
1909
1932
10/08/1932
National Burial Index For England & Wales
Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

In Sleaford workhouse in 1911, with mother and brother Harry, aged 8 months (also illegitimate)

First name(s) Harry
Country England
Last name Spencer
Volume 3A
Birth quarter 3
Page 744
Birth year 1910
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Spencer
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Bishops Stortford
Subcategory Civil Births
County Hertfordshire

Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%)
SPENCER Harry 1 Sleaford 7a 527

Marshall Sills was named after his maternal grandfather, Marshall Davison.


The Sills boys' parents' marriage:

Isabella Davison
in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name Isabella Davison [Isabel Davison]
Gender Female
Marriage Age Full Age
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 18 Apr 1891
Marriage Place Bulwell, St. John, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears Bulwell
Father Marshall Davison
Spouse Mark Sills

Marshall Sills died in 1918

That name has cropped up again. A Marshall Sills is in the same household as Edwin T Sills, born 1902. He is obviously Edwin's brother. Is this just a coincidence?

So far I can find no children of this marriage from 5 years prior to and 10 years after in the Nottingham area.

The marriage cert for Edwin Sills and Lily Spencer arrived today, confirming that she is "my" Lily. The marriage was witnessed by Thyrza Spencer, who was Lily's mother, and her father is given as Kennel Man. This all ties in nicely. Curiously, the other witness was Arthur Marshall. Amy Spencer's child Cecily (Cicely) had the middle name Marshall, and the name crops up elsewhere. I am wondering whether a Marshall was the father. Now to get on searching.

The 1985 death posted by ErikaH -
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Lily Sills died 10.8.1985, cremated 23rd at Wilford Hill, Nottingham. An Agnes Sills apples for the cremation with an address in Loughborough, Leics.

An Agnes Sills b 19.10.1916 died 1988 Nottingham RD (probate shows that Loughborough address)

This appears to be that Agnes - Clarence Sills married Agnes Hammond Q2 1939 Nottingham

1939 Register
20 Rockford Road, Nottingham, Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England
Clarence Sills 12 Dec 1906 Male Hosiery Worker Manager Married 191 1
Agnes Sills 19 Oct 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 191 2

Clarence appears to have died 1982 Nottingham age 75 - DOB as above. Cremated Wilford Hill, applied for by a David Sills. Clarence's probate was Feb. 1983

Yes, I noticed the death. I will send for the cert when I am sure this is the right Lily.
That's enough for tonight. Sleep well.

I can find no children of their marriage, but Lily was 36 at the time of her marriage.

Not sure you need it :-S :-S

Did you notice the death?

Too impatient to wait for the Stevenson cert, I have sent off for the Sills/Spencer cert.

Deaths 1985 (>99%)
SILLS LILY 4SE1898 NOTTINGHAM 8 602

According to the death cert, Amy was living at 44 Broomhill Rd at the time of her death, as was her sister Lily. Actually, that might be 77.

Wait until you get the Stevenson one.......................

How did I miss that? Another certificate to send off for.

1939 Register
77 Broomhill Road, Nottingham, Nottingham C.B., Nottinghamshire, England

Edwin T Sills 21 Sep 1899 Male Bus Driver Married 148 1
Lily Sills 04 Sep 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 148 2

Edwin Sills m Lily Spencer in 1934. You will find it on freebmd

You said you'd ordered the Stevenson marriage cert...............when it arrives, you will have more clarity

Well, that has muddied the waters somewhat. The Death cert for Amy Stevenson arrived today, and her death was reported by L. Sills, her sister. I am fairly certain that her sister Lily died unmarried. So I probably have the wrong Amy. More checking necessary.

I made contact with them a couple of years ago. One very productive, the other not so. We have met up with a second cousin of my wife through GR.

Amy is in a couple of GR trees other than yours..................try making contact