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1939 Register check

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Maralyn

Maralyn Report 26 Jan 2024 22:07


Can someone please check the 1939 Register for a Kenneth Joseph Barnett b.27/11/1926, Romford - mmn Bennett. He married a Honora Eve C Darby, Woolwich in 1952. Have information since marriage but can’t narrow down parents and other ancestors.

Many thanks,

Maralyn

Kay????

Kay???? Report 26 Jan 2024 22:39

Kenneth Joseph Barnett
Record information.
Birth 27 Nov 1926
Death Jul 1988 Kent,.
Record information.

Father Jacob Barnett (1895-1945)
Mother Margaret Mary Bennett (1893-1975)
Spouse Honora Eve C Barnett (1931-1995).


Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Barnett Jacob Bennett Stepney 1c 574 Scan available - click to view.
Bennett Margaret Barnett Stepney 1c 574 Scan available - click to view.







Death of father Jacob Barnett(1895–1945)
7 Oct 1945 • Greenwich, England
1955
28
Death of sister Phyllis Barnett(1915–1955)
1955 • London, England
1960
33
Death of brother Stephan Barnett(1914–1960)
1960 • London England
1974
47
Death of sister Alice Joyce Barnett(1925–1974)
15 Jan 1974 • grove park, London, London, England
1975
48
Death of mother Margaret Mary Bennett(1893–1975)
17 Jan 1975 • Greenwich, England
appears in 6 trees on Ancestry.

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2024 22:51

No Mother's maiden name recorded on the GRO site

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BARNETT, KENNETH JOSEPH
GRO Reference: 1926 D Quarter in ROMFORD Volume 04A Page 753

but there is on freebmd
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
BARNETT Kenneth J Bennett Romford 4a 753

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2024 22:55

1939 Register

49 Harpenden Road, Redbridge, Wanstead and Woodford M.B., Essex, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Jacob Barrett 20 Aug 1895 Male Bus Driver Married 89 1
Margaret (M) Barrett 11 Jul 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 89 2
Stephen D Barrett 24 Jul 1915 Male Mclal Press Operator Heavy Single 89 3
Samuel E Barrett 06 Sep 1920 Male Labourer Sugar Rifinery Single 89 4
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
Conie Barnett 28 Dec 1916 Female French Polisher (Cabinet) Single 89 7
Robert L Sourmerville 21 Apr 1913 Male Dock Labourer Married 89 8
Phyllis M Sourmerville 25 Jun 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 89 9
Alice J Lockwood (Barnett) 29 Jan 1924 Female - Single 89 5

Most peculiar transcripts from original looking at both FMP and Ancestry

Using Alice to search -- the above is from FMP, but click on the link to the original and only Alice shows, most of the rest of the page is redacted.

Conie Barnett above is Anne Dux below

Use Joseph for search, now you know surname shows as Barrett and you get the above

Below from Ancestry -

Name Jacob Barnett
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 20 Aug 1895
Residence Date 1939
Address 49 Harpenden Rd
Residence Place Wanstead and Woodford, Essex, England
Occupation Bas Driver
Line Number 1
Schedule Number 89
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Cduh
Borough Wanstead and Woodford
Registration district 188b-1
Inferred Spouse Margaret Barnett
Inferred Children Stephen D Barnett
Sanuel E Barnett
Household Members (Name) Gender
Jacob Barnett Male
Margaret Barnett Female
Stephen D Barnett Male
Sanuel E Barnett Male
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Anne Dux Female
Robert L Sommerville Male
Infe N Sommerville Female

Anne Dux ------------- may say Anne DUN (see other Dun entries lower on page.)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Jan 2024 09:38

Looks like he was still a closed record in 1939

His marriage cert wouid have named his father though !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jan 2024 09:50

His birth cert will name his parents!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jan 2024 10:48

MMN isn’t shown in results on GRO site for births less than 100 years ago if you only use the child’s name as your search tool, BUT, if you input the MMN, it will show on the search result

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jan 2024 11:32

1921 Census Of England & Wales
123, Stamford Street, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

John Cyril Barrett Head Male 1894 26 Mile End, London, England Store Keeper (Cycle Trade) Manager (Public House) Mr A Barnett, 28 Park Hill, Clapham (Out Of Work)
Margaret Barrett Wife Female 1893 27 London, England House Hold Duties -
Stephen Daniel Barrett Son Male 1915 5 Bow, London, England - -
Phyllis Margaret Barrett Daughter Female 1916 4 London, England - -
Samuel Eric Barrett Son Male 1920 - Dalston, London, England -

Maralyn

Maralyn Report 27 Jan 2024 11:32


You have again provided me with information that I didn’t have. Many thanks for taking to time to assist me.

Maralyn

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Jan 2024 11:54

Name Jacob Barnett
Gender Male
Age 7
Birth Date 20 Aug 1895**************************************
Admission Date 25 Aug 1902
School Smith Street School
Father Samuel Barnett
Notes Smith Street School (0913) opened in 1899. Closed in 1928


1911 Census For England & Wales
230 Brick Lane Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England
Samuel Barnett Head Married Male 47 1864 Licensed victular Whitechapel
Alice Barnett Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Bethnal Green
Joseph Barnett Son Single Male 18 1893 Barman Hackney
Jacob Barnett Son Single Female 16 1895 Cycle engineer Mile End
Abraham Barnett Son Single Male 13 1898 - Stepney
Mark Barnett Son Single Male 7 1904 - Stepney
Reuben Barnett Son Single Male 4 1907 - Stepney
Mary Glasson Servant Single Female 27 1884 General servant Westminster

BARNETT, JACOB HICKLING
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 455


Name Samuel Barnett
Gender Male
Marriage Age 24
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1862
Marriage Date 6 Sep 1886
Marriage Place Saint Thomas, Bethnal Green: Baroness Road, Tower Hamlets, England
Father Daniel Barnett
Spouse Alice Hickling
Father Stephen Hickling

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Jan 2024 12:35


Name Jacob Barnett
Gender Male
Marriage Banns Age 21
Record Type Marriage Banns (Marriage Bann)
Birth Date abt 1893
Marriage Banns Date 1914
Marriage Banns Place Saint Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney: Rectory Square, Tower Hamlets, England
Spouse
Margaret Bennett
Register Type Parish Register.

Cof E. Church Banns Entry,1914.

26th July.
2 Aug,
9th Aug,
The marriage didnt appear to take place till 1919.
---------------


Name Jacob Barnett
Register Type Burial
Death Date abt 1945
Burial or Cremation Date 15 Oct 1945
Burial or Cremation Place Greenwich, London, England
URL https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=3576701

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jan 2024 11:59

As previously posted......................................

Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Barnett Jacob Bennett Stepney 1c 574
Bennett Margaret Barnett Stepney 1c 574

The other marriage..................

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Barnett Jacob Bennett Mile End 1c 785
BENNETT Rose Barnett Mile End 1c 785

1921 Census Of England & Wales
14, Harford Street, Stepney, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex, England
Jacob Barnet Head Male 1844 76 Aldgate, London, England General Dealer Own Account
Rose Barnet Wife Female 1891 29 Whitechapel, London, England Home Duties -
Annie Jacob Boarder Female 1892 29 Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, England Nurse (Out Of Work) -

Kay????

Kay???? Report 28 Jan 2024 17:43

Oh , two Jacobs.. didnt check full entry.