Genealogy Chat

Hello Mandy If John James Miller was born in Gloucestershire then this could be his birth entry. However, I cannot find him on the 1901 census. There are plenty of George & Elizabeth Millers in the Gloucestershire area, but none of them have a child called James, do you know any names of his siblings? Regards Sue John J Miller Birth Q3 1894 District of Thornbury County: Gloucestershire Vol 6a Page 212

Martin Here is the 1891 census on Eliza Kempton and family Regards Sue 1891 Census RG12/4099 Folio 146 Page 23 9 Framwellgate, Durham George Kempton, Head, Married, 44, Organ Metal Pipe Maker, b. Isle of Ely, Cambridgeshire Eliza, Wife, Married, 24, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Alice, Daughter, 14, Domestic Servant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Emma, Daughter, 13, Domestic Servant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Ernest, Son, 12, learning to be a Carpet Weaver, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Edith, Daughter, 9, Scholar, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Beatrice, Daughter, 8, Scholar, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Ethel, Daughter, 4, Infant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire George, Son, 11 months, Infant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire

Susan, Please could you look up my grandfather John James Miller born in 1894, i assume this was Gloucester area but I cannot trace him, his parents names were Elizabeth and William. Many thanks mandy

Hello Heidi I have found Henry Pannell, but I could not find George Pannell or Harriett, searched one year either side of what you gave me. Anyway here are the results and sorry I cant be of any more help Regards Sue Henry William Pannell Birth Q3 1867 District of Alverstoke Vol 2b Page 504 Only George I could find after searching 1838-1840 George Pannell Birth Q1 1840 District of Petworth (Sussex) Vol 7 Page 406 Whilst looking also found this: Benjamin Pannell Birth Q4 1838 District of Alverstoke Vol 7 Page 7

Hi Susan could you please look on 1891 census for a Joseph Rodgers b c1873 in Sheffield i believe his father is John also an Eliza Kempton b c1857 her husband is George but she may be a widow? kids are Alice, Emma & Ernest they should be living in Sheffield? Kind regards Martin Ryan

Hi there, I'd be grateful if you could find the time to look for the birth of Henry William Pannell circa 1868 in the parish of Alverstoke in Gosport, Hants. I am also looking for the birth of his father George Pannell circa 1839 in Alverstoke. Lastly George's wife Harriett Maria Hanneford circa 1843 again in Alverstoke. Many thanks Heidi

Linda I have responded to you directly in relation to the William Edmund Barnett Regards Sue

Hi Susan Wonder if you could help find my mother in laws family by coincidence named BARNETT !! I only have William Edmund Barnett Born 13th Feb 1887 in Boston Lincoln. His father was James Barnett. William married a Dorothy May Luffman on 2nd Jan 1917 in Romsey Hants having served in the Navy.They had 6 children. I believe he had a brother also named James possibly younger than him. There may have been other sibling--Flo, Queenie, Lizzie and Fred? Hope you can find anything for me Regards Linda

Jody here is info on William Silverstone Will get back to you with the other children of George. Regards Sue 1871 Census RG10/3607 Folio 43 Page 27 Building Lane, ……. Road, Shirland, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Head, Married, 29, Cordwainer, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Wife, Married, 25, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ellen, Daughter, 4, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Elizabeth, Daughter, 2, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire John, Son, 9 months, b. Shirland, Derbyshire 1881 Census RG11/3429 Folio 16 Page 26 New Building Land, Shirland, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Head, Married, 39, Boot Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Wife, Married, 35, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ellen, Daughter, 14, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Elizabeth, Daughter, 12, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire John, Son, 10, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire William, Son, 9, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Fanny, Daughter, 7, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Edwin, Son, 4, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Alfred, Son, 7 months, b. Shirland, Derbyshire 1891 Census RG12/2674 Folio 35 Page 15 22 Baker Street, Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire (District of Basford) James Silkstone, Head, 35, Manager Book Shop, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Sarah, Wife, 43, b. Alfreton, Derbyshire Mary B, Niece, 15, b. Alfreton, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Brother, Married, 49, Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Sister-in-law, Married, 45, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Niece, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire 1901 Census RG13/3244 Folio 69 Page 31 & 32 Shirland, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Head, Widower, 59, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ellen, Daughter, Single, 34, Dressmaker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Elizabeth, Daughter, Single, 32, Dressmaker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire William, Son, Single, 29, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Fanny, Daughter, Single, 27, Dressmaker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Edwin, Son, Single, 24, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Alfred, Son, Single, 20, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Daughter, Single, 17, b. Shirland, Derbyshire

Here you go Sandra, think this is them. I havent been able to find any of them on the 1881 census, as for them moving around a lot, now you have your answer, they are living in caravans. Kind regards Sue 1901 Census RG13/4319 Folio 176 Page 57 N.N. Van, New Market Place, Wombwell, Yorkshire (District of Barnsley) George W Dawson, Head, Married, 48, General Dealer (Shop), b. Leeds, Yorkshire Susan, Wife, b. Manchester, Lancashire Mary E, Daughter, Single, 21, Mothers Help, b. Middleton, Yorkshire Harriet, Daughter, Single, 19, b. Wakefield, Yorkshire William, Son, 16, Glassbottle Blower, b. Selby, Yorkshire Charles, Son, 13, b. Castleford, Yorkshire George, Son, 7, b. Cudworth, Yorkshire (*) Please note that the 3 boys are shown living in a separate property but have the same address, and run on through the family, but do not know what N.N stands for. 1891 Census RG12/3764 Folio 44 Page 1 Caravan of Carlton Street, Castleford, Yorkshire (District of Pontefract) George William Dawson, Head, Married, 34, Travelling Hawker, b. Hunslet, Yorkshire Louisa, Wife, 36, b. Dewsbury, Yorkshire Mary Lizz, Daughter, 11, b. Middleton, Yorkshire Harriet, Daughter, 8, b. Wakefield, Yorkshire William, Son, 6, b. Selby, Yorkshire Charles, Son, 3, b. Castleford, Yorkshire George, Son, 2, b. Castleford, Yorkshire John William Garforth, Servant, 24, Travelling Hawker, b. Hunslet, Yorkshire Mary Eliza’s birth Q4 1879 District of Hunslet Vol 9b Page 341 George William Dawson marriage to Louisa Shufflebotton Q3 1876 District of Hunslet Vol 9b Page 424 I cant confirm Louisa’s death the only one I can find is below which fits in with where her last child was born, however the age is 0, not sure if this is because age not given or indeed it is actually a child. Lousia Dawson Q2 1897 District of Barnsley Vol 9c Page 121 Believe this to be George’s second marriage George William Dawson marrying Susannah Smith Q3 1898 District of Burnley Vol 8e Page 479

Here you go Sandra Sarah Onions marrying a William Baker Q2 1847 West Bromwich Vol 18 Page 737 Regards Sue

Hello Sarn I think this is them, would suggest you start of with the birth certificate to confirm the parents. This is the only Charles William Burton in Kent I can find being born in Kent in circa 1904, so hopfully it is the right one. Kind regards Sue Charles William Burton Birth Q3 1904 District of Canterbury Vol 2a Page 966 George Archibald W Burton Birth Q4 1902 District of Canterbury Vol 2a Page 894 George Henry Burton & Susan Dicks Marriage Q4 1901 District of Canterbury Vol 2a Page 1860

Thank you so much Susan for the Davy family look ups - brilliant. Pat.

Hi Susan, thanks for the offer, i don't know if you can help or not. i am trying to find members of my dad's side of the family which i don't really know any thing about . My grandad was william charles Burton born 1904? his parents were George and Susan( i think) i know my grandad lived in canterbury in kent but i don't know if he was born in canterbury but i know it was kent. George Burton would of been born 1880-1884 and would of married susan around 1900. Either my grandad or great grandad had a sister called Dolly and a brother called Archibald, don't know if that will help. Sorry i've gone on a bit but i really need expert help, with such little information i don't have a clue. hope you can help. Good luck Many thanks Sarn

Here you go Patricia, unfortunately I can still not find him in 1861. Kind regards Sue 1871 Census RG10/1821 Folio 123 Page 61 Bailey Street, Heigham, Norfolk (District of Norwich) Dennis Davy, Head, Married, 31, Millwright, b. Mendham, Norfolk Anna E, Wife, 37, b. Alburgh, Norfolk Alice, Daughter, 9, b. Harleston, Norfolk Ellen, Daughter, 8, b. Harleston, Norfolk Laura, Daughter, 7, b. Harleston, Norfolk Rosa, Daughter, 4, b. Harleston, Norfolk Georganna, Daughter, 2, b. Harleston, Norfolk Albert E D, Son, 11 months, b. Harleston, Norfolk 1881 Census RG11/1938 Folio 41 Page 18 St Augustines Rd Bell View Terrace, Norwich St Clement, Norfolk (District of Norwich) Dennis Davey, Head, Married, 41, Mill Wright, b. Mendham, Suffolk Anna E, Wife, 46, b. Alburgh, Norfolk Alice, Daughter, Single, 19, Cigar Maker, b. Harleston, Suffolk Laura, Daughter, 17, Dressmakerb. Harleston, Suffolk Rosa, Daughter, 14, b. Harleston, Suffolk Maria G, Daughter, 12, b. Norwich, Norfolk May F Davey, Daughter, 17, Scholar, b. Norwich, Norfolk (*) note change of county for some of the births! Also believe they have got the relationship wrong for May F – as this is the only one mentioned with a surname and she isn’t mentioned on the 1871 census. 1891 Census RG12/1519 Folio 131 Page 45 & 46 St Augustines Rd Bell View Terrace, Norwich St Clement, Norfolk (District of Norwich) Dennis Davy, Head, Married, 50, Farmer, b. Mendham, Norfolk Anna E, Wife, 56, b. Alburgh, Norfolk Alice, Daughter, Single, 28, Dressmaker, b. Harleston, Norfolk Rosa, Daughter, Single, 24, Dressmaker, b. Harleston, Suffolk Georganna M, Daughter, Single, 22, Milliers Dress (?), b. Norwich, Norfolk Florence M, Daughter, 16, Scholar, b. Norwich, Norfolk (*) Could this Florence be the May F mentioned above and they got the age wrong in 1881? 1901 Census RG13/1838 Folio 146 Page 33 41 Mayfield Road, New Catton Christchurch (Parish), Norwich, Norfolk Jennis Davy, Head, Married, 61, Mill Wright (own account), b. Mendham, Suffolk Anna E, Wife, 66, b. Alburgh, Norfolk Florence M, Daughter, 26, Music Teacher (at home, own account), b. Norwich, Norfolk In relation to the mix up in which county Mendham is in, please see the description below from GENUKI Hoxne (district) Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Suffolk, but included part of Norfolk. Sub-districts : Dennington; Stradbroke. GRO volumes : XII (1837-51); 4a (1852-1930). Mendham (1837-85). Registers now divided between Gipping & Hartismere, Deben and Waveney districts.

Hi Susan Thanks for the look ups. I think I found Dennis Davy in 1901 but having no credit left couldn`t go any further. Dennis Davy age 61 born Mendham Sfk. Living Norwich occupation Millwright. Just been back to Ancestry but not being a subscriber couldn`t get too far, but there is Anna E. Davy born c1834/5 showing for 1871 and also 1891. She is Dennis` wife so hopefully they are together. Pat.

Here you go Patricia I couldnt find Dennis anywhere but I have found George & Lucy in 1861 - hope this helps Regards Sue 1861 Census Fressingfield, Suffolk RG9/1151 Folio 24 Page 24 George Davy, Head, Married, 44 (unable to make out occupation), b. Mendham, Suffolk Lucy, Wife, Married, 28, b. Bessingham, Norfolk Giles, Son, 16, b. Mendham, Suffolk Ann, Daughter, 12, b. Mendham, Suffolk George, Son, 9 months, b. Mendham, Suffolk Mary Frost, Mother-in-law, Widow, 72, b. Debenham, Suffolk

Hello Susan, Looking for Dennis Davy/Davey born c 1839/40 Mendham Suffolk. I have him on the 1841 census age 1 with parents George and Lucy Davy. If you have the time could you look for him in 61 and 71 [I found him in 1881 with wife Anna age 46 living Norwich, spelt Davey] and then in 91 and 01 please. If its not too much to ask could I have address and anyone else living with him, this will help me with his brothers and sisters and his own children. Many thanks. Pat.

Susan Tks a million for the 2 census lookups, this tog with info I got on another thread has got me moving again. If only they had been more accurate with their spellings and dates, it would make things that much easier! I'm now off to order certs. Many tks to you, Sarah and Gwyneth.

Christine Here you are - note difference in spellings of surname, which might have been why you were having problems tracing them Regards Sue 1861 Census RG9/401 Folio 43 Page 27 Cottage in Garden of …………., Greenwich, London (unable to make out rest of address as quite feint) Samuel Peak, Head, Married, 39, Gardener, b. Oxford, Kent, Lydia, Wife, 38, Gardener’s Wife, b. Seal, Kent, Sarah, Daughter, 13, Scholar, b. Oxford, Kent, Titus, Son, 12, Scholar, b. Seal, Kent, William, Son, 7, Scholar, b. Seal, Kent, George, Son, 5, Scholar, b. Greenwich, Kent, Thomas, Son, 4, b. Greenwich, Kent, Amy, Daughter, 3, b. Greenwich, Kent, James, Son, 1, b. Greenwich, Kent, 1871 Census RG10/759 Folio 31 Page 14 5 Inn Terrace, Greenwich, London (Note the surname has gone in as Beck!) Samuel Beck, Head, Married, 49, Gardener, b. Olford, Kent, Lydia, Wife, 48, b. Seal, Kent, Titus, Son, Single, 21, Bricklayers Labourer, b. Seal, Kent, William, Son, 19, Bricklayers Labourer, b. Seal, Kent, George, Son, 17, Errand Boy, b. Greenwich, Kent, Thomas, Son, 15, Scholar, b. Greenwich, Kent, Amy, Daughter, 13, Scholar, b. Greenwich, Kent, James, Son, 11, Scholar, b. Greenwich, Kent, Lydia, Daughter, 9, Scholar, b. Greenwich, Kent, Ned, Son, 7, Scholar, b. Greenwich, Kent, Henry, Son, 3, b. Greenwich, Kent,