Genealogy Chat

Time to start again i think ********************************************** Thread closed. please see new thread, except for replies not yet acknowledged. jess

Sorry Maria, i cant see it either on ancestry.

Hi Jess, thanks for the info. Ann Vaughan [born 1852] married William Morgan [i think in 1872 in Dymock,Gloucestershire] She lived her married life in Berkerley,Gloucs.I have the 1881 1891 1901 census info for her.No idea when she died. She was my gg grandma. Cheers,Carole.

jess i am trying to tie up the mould family[strangleis poss] i had david mould 1842 born egleton rutand his first wife was elizabeth?? poss born ely cambs have found she died in 1875 The 3 sons she left were arthur amos and w.c. In 1881 i have found artur and amos with rellies amos born 1860 is in york with a john goodman Artuhur 1870 is in cheshire with a william goodman Both the goodmans were born canterbury kent trying to find out where the conection to the boys fits in were they related to elizabeth ??.I can not find w.c. I have found william goodman in bornmouth in 1901 he was and is a miister thanks lynn

Carole,Do you know who Ann married and when. I cant find her in 1871 and may be better working back by 1871 the children have all left home Ann Vaughn abt 1819 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ashleworth Gloucestershire Henry Vaughn abt 1817 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Head Ashleworth Gloucestershire _________________________________________________ give me a while and i'll see if i can spot them elsewhere: 1) Looks like Charles had married and has a wife called Ann , as well as a baby daughter called Ann, (not to mention his sister and mother!!) Ann Vaughn abt 1847 Sandhurst, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ashleworth Gloucestershire Ann Vaughn abt 1870 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ashleworth Gloucestershire Charles Vaughn abt 1849 Gloucestershire, England Head Ashleworth Gloucestershire

Wow thanks Jess, could i be very cheeky and ask for the same family in the 1871 census. You will definitely get your rewards in Heaven!!! Carole.

Carole, she isn't the head...! Ann Vaughan abt 1817 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ashleworth Gloucestershire Ann Vaughan abt 1852 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ashleworth Gloucestershire <--< Charles Vaughan abt 1850 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Ashleworth Gloucestershire Henry Vaughan abt 1816 Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England Head Ashleworth Gloucestershire Joseph Vaughan abt 1855 Ashleworth, Gloucestershire, England Son Ashleworth Gloucestershire address reads something like 'the sheam' (?)- poor writing

Hi Jess, if you could check the 1861 census out for me ,it would help a great deal. Ann Vaughan born 1852 at Ashleworth,Gloucestershire,England. She is the daughter of the head of household. The census is at Gloucestershire,England. Thanks ,Carole.

Hi Jess Definately a possibility. I think I am going to have to put them both on a backburner until I can find a bit more info on them. Thanks for looking for them for me and sorry if I seem to have given you a rather difficult one that makes no sense. Thank again for everything. Regards, Emma

Boro babs I shall stop when my subscription to ancestry site runs out! i cant afford to pay to do other peoples look ups, but will share what i have while i have it to spare. (unless you want to organise a whip round!!) jess

Jess dont ever stop you contacted me ages ago reg William Henry Steer Johnson no further yet , but could not help but look at you site and the Johnsons earlier I know we had links all over so had to print of.

Emma might be Harriet in 1891 Name: Stone, Harriet Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Hackney, London Birth Country: England Civil parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Town: London County/Island: London Source information: RG12/71 Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub registration district: Belgrave

Jan, Lilian and family 1901 Albert G Cains abt 1898 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire Gertrude O Cains abt 1887 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Jessie Cains abt 1886 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Lawrence C Cains abt 1889 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire Lilian M Cains abt 1893 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Maria Cains abt 1861 Gosport, Hampshire, England Wife Alverstoke Hampshire Percy J Cains abt 1892 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire Robert C Cains abt 1860 Isle of Wight, Ryde Head Alverstoke Hampshire address 1 Cranbourne Rd Robert was a sail maker ________________________________________________ see if i can take them back: 1891 Cains, Maria abt 1860 Gosport, Hampshire, England Wife Alverstoke Hampshire Cains, Robert C abt 1859 Ryde, Hampshire, England Head Alverstoke Hampshire Cains, Rosina M abt 1884 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire address 49 Joseph st Robert again is a sail maker ____________________________________________ 1881 Robert Pre marriage Matilda E. A. Cains abt 1861 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Clarence Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Norah J. Cains abt 1834 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Wife Clarence Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Olive A. Cains abt 1879 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Clarence Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Robert E. Cains abt 1859 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Son Clarence Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Vernon E. Cains abt 1875 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Clarence Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England William Cains abt 1828 Gosport, Hampshire, England Head Clarence Road, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England address Clarence Rd his father was also a sail maker __________________________________________________- 1781 Clifford R Cains abt 1859 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire Matilda E Cains abt 1861 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Norah J Cains abt 1834 Isle of Wight, Bembridge Wife Alverstoke Hampshire William Cains abt 1828 Gosport, Hampshire, England Head Alverstoke Hampshire William E Cains abt 1855 Isle of Wight, Ryde Son Alverstoke Hampshire address york St _________________________________________________- 1861 Matilda Elizabeth Ann Cains abt 1860 Newtown, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Norah Jane Cains abt 1834 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Wife Alverstoke Hampshire Robert Clifford Cains abt 1859 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire William Cains abt 1828 Gosport, Hampshire, England Head Alverstoke Hampshire William Edwin Cains abt 1855 Stoke Road, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire address Richard st __________________________________________________- Robert and Maria had first child 1884 and was still at home in 1881. See if i can find a marriage Cains, Robert Clifford 1882 September Marriages Alverstoke Hampshire Seymour, Maria 1882 September Marriages Alverstoke Hampshire _______________________________________________ see if i can see Maria's family 1881 1881 Name: Maria Seymour Age in 1881: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relationship to head-of-household: Servant at ASHLEY HOUSE HIGH ST Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England Address: High Street Civil parish: Alverstoke County/Island: Hampshire _____________________________________________--- 1871 Ellen Seymour abt 1865 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Jas E Seymour abt 1858 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire Jefrie Seymour abt 1856 Llangendeine, Carmarthenshire, Wales Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Maria Seymour abt 1860 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Martha Seymour abt 1827 Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Alverstoke Hampshire Address Beech St * Jeferie reads SOPHIE! Where is dad? Mum is M not Widow _________________________________________________ 1861 dad is there James E Seymour abt 1827 Truro, Cornwall, England Head Alverstoke Hampshire James E Seymour abt 1858 Gosport, Hampshire, England Son Alverstoke Hampshire Jesie Seymour abt 1856 Llanelly, Caernarvonshire, Wales Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Maria Seymour abt 1860 Gosport, Hampshire, England Daughter Alverstoke Hampshire Martha Seymour abt 1825 Llanelly, Caernarvonshire, Wales Wife Alverstoke Hampshire address No 4 (something ) buildings

Blimey Jess. You amaze me!! In the time it would have taken me to find the first entry, you have found all of them. Iv'e typed it all out now and will work on it. I know it's cheeky but I updated the message to ask if you could look for Lilian Cains who Frank married and you must have been replying to me as I was updating. Can you check it out another time when you are not so busy. Thanks a million, I'm impressed. Jan

Hi Jess Yes thats the right family. Charles is on the 1871 census with them but disappears after that. Were you not able to find them. If not don't worry it was just worth a try as I didn't know where to go with them. Thanks again, emma

Will do his bride to be after Corrie!!

jan 1901 Alfd Wheeler abt 1853 Alton, Hampshire, England Head New Alresford Hampshire Alfred E Wheeler abt 1889 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Elizabeth Wheeler abt 1892 Alresford, Hampshire, England Daughter New Alresford Hampshire Elsie J Wheeler abt 1856 Ipswich Wife New Alresford Hampshire Frank V Wheeler abt 1887 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Reginald Wheeler abt 1900 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Winifred D Wheeler abt 1895 Alresford, Hampshire, England Daughter New Alresford Hampshire Adress household 44 East St ________________________________________________- 1891- same family Wheeler, Alfred Edward abt 1853 Alton, Hampshire, England Head New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Alfred Erwin abt 1889 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Annie Louise abt 1878 Alresford, Hampshire, England Daughter New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Elsie Jane abt 1856 Iswich, Suffolk, England Wife New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Elsie Mable abt 1883 Bullbrook Bracknell, Berkshire, England Daughter New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Frank Victor abt 1887 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Frederick abt 1885 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Henry James abt 1879 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire address household 135 Broad st ____________________________________________________ 1881- they moved around a bit! Alfred Wheeler abt 1853 Alton, Hampshire, England Head Broad Lane, Winkfield, Berkshire, England Annie L. Wheeler abt 1878 Alresford, Hampshire, England Daughter Broad Lane, Winkfield, Berkshire, England Elsie J. Wheeler abt 1856 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Wife Broad Lane, Winkfield, Berkshire, England Henry J. Wheeler abt 1879 Alresford, Hampshire, England Son Broad Lane, Winkfield, Berkshire, England ______________________________________________----- 1871 Alfred pre marriage Alfred Wheeler abt 1853 Alton, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Eliza Wheeler abt 1831 Alton, Hampshire, England Wife New Alresford Hampshire James Wheeler abt 1832 Swallowfield, Yorkshire, England Head New Alresford address West St ________________________________________________-- see if i can find 1861 to complete the set! Alfred Wheeler abt 1853 Alton, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire Eliza Wheeler abt 1831 Alton, Hampshire, England Wife New Alresford Hampshire Henry G Wheeler abt 1859 New Alresford, Hampshire, England Son New Alresford Hampshire James Wheeler abt 1832 Swobfield, Berkshire, England Head New Alresford Hampshire Louisa Wheeler abt 1856 Alton, Hampshire, England Daughter New Alresford Hampshire ____________________________________________________ he had a daughter by 1878, see if i can find the marriage Must be... Spooner, Elsie Jane 1876 March Marriages Alresford Hampshire Wheeler, Alfred 1876 March Marriages Alresford Hampshire ---------------------------------------------------------- see if i can find Elsie's family for you :errrmmm NO!!

Hi Jess. I am looking for Frank Wheeler born 1887 in Alresford. Hants. He was 14 on the 1901 Census and still in Alresford. Can you look to see who he was with and the address. Also, his future wife was Lilian Cains, who was 8 in 1901 born in Gosport and still there, so she would be born 1893, can you do the same for her Thanks a lot. Jan

catherine so this is her on 1881 Martha Wright abt 1857 Benton Sq, Northumberland, England Wife 13 Prudhoe St, Backworth, Northumberland, England ------------------------------------------------------- You left off BENTON.!... 1871- Martha Johnson abt 1822 Benton, Northumberland, England Wife Holywell Northumberland Martha Johnson abt 1857 Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Holywell Northumberland <--< Matthew Johnson abt 1855 Benton, Northumberland, England Son Holywell Northumberland Rebecca Johnson abt 1860 Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Holywell Northumberland Thomas Johnson abt 1806 Benton, Northumberland, England Head Holywell Northumberland adress household 9 Front Row Thomas is a miner -------------------------------------------------------- 1861 Charles Johnson abt 1844 Benton, Northumberland, England Son Longbenton Northumberland Elisha Johnson abt 1842 Benton, Northumberland, England Son Longbenton Northumberland Elizabeth Johnson abt 1846 Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Longbenton Northumberland George Johnson abt 1844 Benton, Northumberland, England Son Longbenton Northumberland Hannah Johnson abt 1841 Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Longbenton Northumberland John Johnson abt 1851 Benton, Northumberland, England Son Longbenton Northumberland Martha Johnson abt 1820 Benton, Northumberland, England Wife Longbenton Northumberland Martha Johnson abt 1857 Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Longbenton Northumberland <--< Matthew Johnson abt 1855 Benton, Northumberland, England Son Longbenton Northumberland Rebecca Johnson abt 1860 Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Longbenton Northumberland Thomas Johnson abt 1805 Benton, Northumberland, England Head Longbenton Northumberland Thomas was a coal miner- and they are actually living on Benton Square, Benton

Emma is this Harriet with her family in 1881? Edward E. Stone abt 1867 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son 11 Bowmans Cottages (Garratt), Wandsworth, London, England Harriet Stone abt 1873 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Daughter 11 Bowmans Cottages (Garratt), Wandsworth, London, England Samuel Stone abt 1837 Querley, Hampshire, England Head 11 Bowmans Cottages (Garratt), Wandsworth, London, England Samuel Stone abt 1865 Wandsworth, Surrey, England Son 11 Bowmans Cottages (Garratt), Wandsworth, London, England Sarah Stone abt 1828 Acton, Middlesex, England Wife 11 Bowmans Cottages (Garratt), Wandsworth, London, England * Charles isn't there