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emma 1891 All the Lords on the page, see if you can suss it! Lord, Amy C abt 1883 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Clara abt 1874 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Edward abt 1882 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, Elizabeth abt 1872 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Ellen abt 1885 Islington, London Granddaughter Islington London Lord, George abt 1826 Maidford, Northampton Head Islington London Lord, William A abt 1889 Islington, London Son Islington London and the previous page... Lord, Amy abt 1856 Islington, London Wife Islington London Lord, George abt 1852 Holborn, London Head Islington London Lord, Henry G abt 1880 Islington, London Son Islington London

Hi Jess Sorry, could you check the 1871 you sent me, I can't see the head of that family. Do they come on seperate pages or could they be mistranscribed? If they don't have anything else on them would you be able to give me the folio no's so I can look them up on the microfilm at the family records centre. Ithink this is where my mystery about Emma/ Ellen Lord may be. I couldn't find Emma on the 1881 census either. Thanks again, Emma

Jane. Think i've looked before too- when in 1891 was Maud Born? is this possibly her birth? Name: Foreman, Alice Maude Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1893 District: Petworth County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 321 (click to see others

Hi Jess Thankyou for all the info. It all fits together now. Emma is Ellen's(1885) mother. I am not sure but I think it is possible that emma may go be Ellen on the other census'. On the 1881 census there is an Ellen who is 17 (1863). Does she appear on the 1891 census with Ellen(1885). Would you be able to check 44 Dorset St on the 1891 census as I don't have a head or wife of the family. Thanks for everything though. I really appreciate it!! Emma

Emma - 1871 mistranscribed as LARD!! Edward Lard 1854 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London Elizabeth Lard 1829 Cambridgeshire, England Wife Islington London Elizabeth Lard 1871 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London Ellen Lard 1864 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London Emma Lard 1861 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London Francis Lard 1867 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London George Lard 1825 Northamptonshire, England Head Islington London George Lard 1852 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London James Lard 1856 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London Thomas Lard 1866 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London

Emma- not George but I'll bet its his brother (clarifies B place too) Ann Lord 1808 Eydon, Northamptonshire, England Wife Maidford Northamptonshire Eliz L Lord 1860 Maidford, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Maidford Northamptonshire William Lord 1825 Maidford, Northamptonshire, England Head Maidford Northamptonshire

Emma 1871 is evading me at the moment! 1861 Edward Lord 1854 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son Islington St Mary Middlesex Elizabeth Lord 1829 Cambridgeshire, England Wife Islington St Mary Middlesex Emma Lord 1860 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Mary Middlesex George Lord 1827 Northamptonshire, England Head Islington St Mary Middlesex George Lord 1852 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son Islington St Mary Middlesex James Francis Lord 1856 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son Islington St Mary Middlesex

Emma. 1881 - imagine he was born Maidford or Maidwell Clara Lord abt 1874 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Elizabeth Lord abt 1830 Brinkley, Cambridgeshire, England Wife 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Elizabeth Lord abt 1871 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Ellen Lord abt 1864 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Francis Lord abt 1867 Islington, Middlesex, England Son 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England George Lord abt 1826 Malefed, Northamptonshire, England Head 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Marian Lord abt 1876 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Thomas Lord abt 1866 Islington, Middlesex, England Son 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London

Emma- George is still at home on 1871 Elizabeth Lord 1847 Holborn, Middlesex, England Daughter St Mary Newington London Elizabeth Lord 1870 Newington, Surrey, England Niece St Mary Newington London George Lord 1852 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Son St Mary Newington London James Lord 1848 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son St Mary Newington London

Hi Jess Please could you look on the 1891 census for Henry James Foreman born 1864 Gravesend kent Eliza Janes Foreman born 1869 Rye Sussex. Maud Alice Foreman born 1891 May Rye Sussex. 1881 not marr Henry is on a ship he is a seaman 1901 marr living 57, Pelham Rd. Gravesend kent several people have tried but cannot find them hope you can help. Jane. He

Hi Jess I have looked on the 1881 census and I think there was possibly a previous page on the 1891 census that you may not have seen(not sure what you get on Ancestry?). I think you are missing Ellen's grandparents. They are George Lord ,1826, born northampton. and Elizabeth, 1830, born Cambridge. The other household you found was their son of the same name. Could you look up George and Elizabeth on the 1871 and 1861 census they were in Islington in 1871 but they could be in either Islington or Cambridgeshire in 1861. I hope I haven't confused you too much as all the info you have given me is brilliant and means that I think this family would be solved with the other census'. Thanks again, Emma

emma will look later- work calls now 'till 6 jess

Hi Jess I think actually you may have the right family in a sense. Ellen's mother is called Emma. Although she isn't on this census I am wondering if she may be on the 1871. Could you check this for me under George Lord(1852, Holborn). Thankyou for looking that up for me though, it is very interesting as you may have found the next generation that I didn't think I was going to get to. Emma

Emma -not what you wanted to see i am sure Name: Lord, Ellen Age in 1891: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where Born: Islington, London Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Balls Pond Town: County: London Source information: RG12/164 Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 39 Page: 30 Lord, Clara abt 1874 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Edward abt 1882 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, Elizabeth abt 1872 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Ellen abt 1885 Islington, London Granddaughter Islington London living at 44 dorset St BUT living at no 40, Lord, Amy C abt 1883 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Edward abt 1882 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, William A abt 1889 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, Amy abt 1856 Islington, London Wife Islington London Lord, George abt 1852 Holborn, London Head Islington London Lord, Henry G abt 1880 Islington, London Son Islington London

Hi Jess WOW!! Thanks for all that!, Its the correct Ketteringhams in the 1901 census, i shall look through the rest of the info and see what it show etc. Thank you so much for taking the time to look it all up Love Kirsty :))

Sorry for the confusion yep i see the Harriet Pilsbury born 1815 ;-) (just trying to find the kids now , i know she was born HARRIET MURRAY , CHRISTENED 19/2/1815 , MARRIED RALPH PILSBURY 23/7/1832) so I am trying to find any kids born to them , would be between 1832 (going from wedding date) and 1861 where they are alone , but then in the '71 sensus , RALPH appears to have died and HARRIET is caring for the g/kids. Then for Eliza (nee HADLEY) and RALPH THEY MARRIED 8/10/1860 Have the 1861 info from you (in Biltson , Staffordshire) Got the 1881 with kids in Ettinghall Lane , Wolverhampton Got them in the 1891 again in wolverhampton Then have Eliza in 1901 , again Wolverhampton with Ralph missing (assumed dead at this time) But 1871 , nothing , you left that for a bit. (got all me prinouts sorted now so I know where I am) Cheers again Debs

Kirsty - if this is the right Emma/Fanny, also shows her mothers maiden name in the form of a M-in-law! Ann T Mountain 1862 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Boston Lincolnshire Charles Mountain 1866 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Charlotte A Mountain 1864 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Boston Lincolnshire Edwin Mountain 1858 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Fanny Mountain 1868 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Boston Lincolnshire James H Mountain 1870 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Mary A Mountain 1831 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Wife Boston Lincolnshire Thomas Mountain 1828 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Head Boston Lincolnshire William Mountain 1856 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Ann Twell 1800 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Mother-in-law Boston Lincolnshire

Kirsty- Might Be...only might...# Name: Mountain, Fanny Age in 1891: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Boston, Lincolnshire Civil parish: Streatham Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonards County: London Source information: RG12/456 Registration district: Wandsworth Sub registration district: Streatham ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 142 Page: 45 ( 1881- Name: Fanny Mountain Age in 1881: 13 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relationship to head-of-household: Servant Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Female Where born: Boston, Lincoln, England Address: 65 High Street Civil parish: Boston County/Island: Lincolnshire Condition as to marriage: Unknown Occupation: Under Nurse Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Source information: RG11/3218 Registration district: Boston Sub-registration district: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 45 Page: 9 will try 1871

Kirsty- is this the correct lot in 1901? Alice Ketteringham 11 Middleton, Norfolk, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Emma Ketteringham 34 Wildmore Fen, Lincolnshire, England Wife Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Esther Ketteringham 7 Wildmore Fen, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Florence Ketteringham 2 Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Nellie Ketteringham 6 Wildmore Fen, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire William Ketteringham 38 Middleton, Norfolk, England Head Scrivelsby Lincolnshire

Hi Jess Regrad Ketteringham. Thank you so much for your help, that has just opened up a whole new route! Thanks Again Kirsty :))