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Trying to find out what happened to Daniel, (a sawyer) and Charlotte PEAK after the death of their twin sons Daniel and John, aged 3 days, in December 1862 in Madley, Herefordshire. I found an English-born Daniel of the right age, also a sawyer, in the 1880 U.S. census online.
How do I find out if he could be the right one?
He was baptised Daniel John PEAK in 1835, but so far I've only seen him as Daniel in any records.

Are you sure they went to the USA? I found these deaths on FreeBMD, dont know if they are yours Deaths Mar 1885 Peak Daniel John 48 Wigan 8c 59 Deaths Sep 1882 Peak Charlotte 68 Lambeth 1d 240 Deaths Dec 1890 Peak Charlotte 78 Bolton 8c 349

Thank you for that Carol. The Wigan death certainly looks interesting in particular. I couldn't find Daniel in 1881 and that's what made me look at other possibilities and when I found a sawyer in USA it made me wonder. -Still don't know where Charlotte( nee MEDLEY)was in 1880/1881 or when they married. Might have to get that certificate to find if she was the informant.

Hi Gwyneth I had similar problem. By process of iliminatiom (& the US census!) I found that one of my rellies migrated to Utah in the 1880s. I did a bit of Googling & came up with an MSN site run on similar lines as GC called Our Ancestors & Kin (or something like that) I put a message on their board not really expecting anything & I got a reply from a lovely lady named Norma listing him.his family & his childrens familys. Can't confirm of course but names & dates all tie up. This site is run from the USA. If you are interested email me & I will give you the addy. Regards Brenda

Now I might be getting somewhere! Thank you all for your interest and help. Mea, That certainly looks like him. Daniel was baptised in Little Dean and his sister was Rosa, so he could have named his daughter after her.It looks like they moved around within the area, crossing county boundaries and that's why I didn't find him in Herefordshire. Brenda That sounds a good idea. I will followup the possible Wigan death first to see if he came back(if it was him who went!)

Old post, but still looking.........

I now know that Daniel married Charlotte WEDLEY ...(not Medley) and they were in Ince in Makerfield, Lancashire in 1881, transcribed as LEAKE.

I would still like to be sure that it was not 'my' Daniel in America in 1880 and wonder if all these years on whether there is extra information online.....
Still trying to find shipping records.
Can anyone help please?
I have a note... re. 13 December 1879 for a Dan PEAKE that someone gave me in relation to this, but I don't know if that is an immigration date or from a sailing list.
Are there details out there please that would confirm whether or not it was my distant relative in USA ?

Gwyn

Gwen I have had a look and can't find anything. Sorry.

For ref.


1881 England Census about Daniel Leake
Name: Daniel Leake
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Leake
Gender: Male
Where born: Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Duke St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Wagon Works Sawyer

Registration District: Wigan
Sub-registration District: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3775
Folio: 122
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Leake 44
Charlotte Leake 45
Daniel Leake 15
Jane Leake 7

All born Glous



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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Jane Peake
Name: Jane Peake
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 5
Records on Page:
Name
George Robbins
Edwin Chapple
Sarah Gillard
Jane Peake

Thank you for looking Mel.

I think Charlotte remarried as a widow in 1887, but her husband, James HARDING seems to have a different birthplace at each census, so I'm leaving them for now, as Daniel is my bloodline and they are enough to deal with !

It seems to be a big coincidence if the one in USA in 1880 isn't him....

Gwyn

I can't find one that is in the US in 1880.

I can find one who is a Fitter but his age is years out.

There is another born 16.9.1896 born Ireland a Machinist and wife Margaret and two children born 1923 and 1926. This is a naturalization record.

Gosh I have at last found it, the Dan Peak one in 1879. He is on his own and a Labourer.


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Dan Peak
Name: Dan Peak
Arrival Date: 13 Dec 1879
Birth Date: abt 1836
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: American **********************************
Place of Origin: United States of America
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Spain
Search Ship Database: Search the Spain in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

I think this one was American as it has that in one of the columns.

I have pm'd you.

Daniel Peak in household of Joseph Johnson, "United States Census, 1880"



Name: Daniel Peak
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 44
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Sawyer (Unemployed for 6m)
Race (Original): W
Ethnicity: American
Relationship to Head of Household: Other
Birthplace: England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 1836
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace: England
Page: 155
Page Letter: B
Entry Number: 4059
Affiliate Film Number: T9-1180
GS Film number: 1255180
Digital Folder Number: 004244466
Image Number: 00710
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Joseph Johnson M 33 England
Wife Sophia Johnson F 33 England
Son Charles Johnson M 5 Pennsylvania, United States
Son George Johnson M 3 Pennsylvania, United States
Other Daniel Peak M 44 England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Other James M. Moore M 19 Pennsylvania, United States
Other Willian Schofield M 26 England
Other Gamaliel Pontafrad M 36 England
Other John Booth M 24 England
Other Harrison Easthurne M 30 England
Other George Whiteside M 20 England

He is on a tree on Ancestry as having died in Burra, South Australia in 1899. However, seeing as they have him marrying Charlotte Wadley in Michigan USA in 1862 I wouldn't take it as gospel.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name:DANIEL
Last Name:PEAK
Birth Year:1837
Age:34
Birth Place:
Birth Town:
Birth County:GLOUCESTERSHIRE
Gender:M
Relationship:HEAD
Occupation: SAWYER
Condition:
Street:HOPEWELL STREET
Parish:BARTON ST MARY
Town:GLOUCESTER
City:
County:Gloucestershire
Country:ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District:
Enumeration District:15(K)
Municipal Ward:
Parliamentary Borough:GLOUCESTER
Registration District:GLOUCESTER
Category:Census, Land & Substitutes
Record set:1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from:United Kingdom
Archive Reference:RG10
Folio:7
Page:8
Piece Number:2622

CHARLOTTE PEAK 1837 34
DANIEL PEAK 1866 5
ROSA PEAK 1868 3

Thank you for looking for him Thelma and Marie Celeste.

He fits the bill age-wise and occupation in 1880, but I have nothing to say that the one in America could be mine, other than perhaps a big coincidence.
I looked for him returning to UK but didn't find him.

Marie Celeste
I noted those world wide references earlier this afternoon, when I was checking trees.
Bit of a muddle there, I'd say..........but some have been happy to copy !!

Gwyn

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWJL-2HV
Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/populationsc18801180unit#page/n708/mode/1up


http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PEAK William PEAK PEAK WEDLEY 1864 Gloucester Gloucester, Newent 13 49
PEAK Daniel PEAK PEAK WEDLEY 1866 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 26 410
PEAK Rosa PEAK PEAK WEDLEY 1868 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 23 174

Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry
PEAKE William 5m 1865 Gloucester, Newent 8 210

Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
Peak Daniel John Newent 6a 388
[W_][e_]dley Charlotte Newent 6a 388

I checked the image and it is Wedley
[I had to look up John Wedlake to get at image ANC-05/S-Z/1862M3-W-0357.jpg]


http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1885
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
PEAK Daniel John 48 Hindley Wigan & Leigh HNDL/49/290

Thank you for looking up these links mgnv
...off to see what's there......

Gwyn