Genealogy Chat

You got there before me!

Off to rest my eyes and get dressed now.

Its at times like this that I thank my ancestors for having unusual names. Nothing as common as Wilson in my lot!

We have a Taylor/Wainwright 1970+ birth look up if you fancy a real challenge, Wilson has nothing on them!! lol

No longer required (wrong family) link not proved.

Wilson 1953 AMJ Janet M mmn Lavender - Surrey N W

Could we have two Wilson/Lavender marriages or did they move. It certainly looks like Dad only came home every 3 years (lol).

Update:
Marriage
1953 AMJ Edith Lavender - Eric C Willson (note ll) - Thanet. Could birth be a typo?

Hi everyone,
welldone to you all you are doing a fantastic job.
Phyllis

Hello All,
The names are coming fast. Well done. Keep up the good work.
Thanks
Paul

William Armstrong death cert details:

Redbridge
Redbridge, London Borough of Redbridge
16 April 1983 King George Hospital, Newbury Park
William Armstrong - Male
30 May 1910 Alnwick, Northumberland
Quality Control Inspector Retired
** Chadwell Heath, Romford
Phyllis Doreen Armstrong - Widow of deceased
** Chadwell Heath, Romford
Bronchs Pneumonia
Certified by G G Steinbergh MB
Signed - P D Armstrong 18 April 1983
Registrar M E Loftus

Hi Folks
The progress for this tale has been magnificent. you have all worked so hard. Good luck and I wish you all well. I am sure Patricia is watching you all and saying thank you, thank you and thank you again

Regards
Chris

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Update
The postman arrived laden with certificates – so here’s the first a three updates

Confirmation of William Armstrong’s birth

Born 30th May 1910 at 3 Turner Street Amble
Father: Rendel Armstrong – Fireman on a Boat
Mother: Isabella Armstrong formerly Fisher
Informant: I. Armstrong, Mother, 3 Turner Street Amble

This now confirms William’s birth details and that to join the army he increased his age by one year – not unusual.

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Marriage between Francis Henry Weld Silmon and Mary Gaffney

1903 – At St Andrews Catholic Church Worowick(sp?) Street Newcastle upon Tyne

12 December 1903
Francis Henry Weld Silmon – 20 years- Bachelor – Iron Driller – 68 De Grey Street Newcastle – Father: William Weld Silmon – Caretaker

Mary Gaffney – 19 years – Spinster – No occupation – 176 Pilgrim Street Newcastle – Father: John Gaffney - Labourer

Married at St Dominics Church according the Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church by Certificate by me

Witnesses: Michael Joseph Gaffney & Theresa Silmon

Yes – that is correct two different churches mentioned on the certificate

This confirms both the ancestry and descendant links.

Thanks
Rachel

Second of Three Updates

Marriage between James Anthony Wilson and Theresa Amina Weld Silmon

1904 at St Michaels Catholic Church Plumber Street Newcastle upon Time

16 February 1904

James Anthony Wilson – 23 years – Bachelor – Insurance Agent – 30 Fenham Road Newcastle Father: Anthony Wilson (Deceased) – Bricklayer

Theresa Amina Weld Silmon 21 Years – Spinster – No Occupation - 68 De Grey Street Newcastle – Father: William Weld Silmon – Caretaker

Married at St Michaels Catholic Church according the Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholics by Certificate by me

Witnesses: William Weld Silmon & Ann Ellen Pasola


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Marriage between Francis Henry Silmon and Norah Rogan

1929 – At St Patrick’s Church, Barrow Island

30 November 1929
Francis Henry Silmon – 25 years – Bachelor – Shipwright – 96 Ferry Road, Barrow Father: Frank Henry Silmon – Forman Driller (Shipyard)

Norah Rogan – 21 years – Spinster – No occupation – 95 Ferry Road, Barrow
Father: William Rogan – Wireworks Labourer

Married at St Patrick’s Church according the Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholics by Certificate by me

Witnesses: Thomas Rogan & Eileen Rogan

This confirms both the ancestry and descendant links.


Thanks
Rachel

Update third of three updates

Marriage between Francis Henry Silmon and Norah Rogan

1929 – At St Patrick’s Church, Barrow Island

30 November 1929
Francis Henry Silmon – 25 years – Bachelor – Shipwright – 96 Ferry Road, Barrow Father: Frank Henry Silmon – Forman Driller (Shipyard)

Norah Rogan – 21 years – Spinster – No occupation – 95 Ferry Road, Barrow
Father: William Rogan – Wireworks Labourer

Married at St Patrick’s Church according the Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholics by Certificate by me

Witnesses: Thomas Rogan & Eileen Rogan

This confirms both the ancestry and descendant links.

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Marriage between William Osman Weld Silmon and Jane Elliott Potts

1937 St Dominics Church Red Barns (sp?) Newcastle upon Tyne

6 February 1937

William Osman Weld Silmon – 30 years – Bachelor – Shipyard Plumber – 62 Blackwell Avenue Newcastle; Father: Frank Henry Silmon – Forman Driller

Jane Elliott Potts – 32 years – Spinster – no occupation – 2 Hannington Street Newcastle Father: John Bagnall Potts – General Labourer

Married at St Dominics Church according the Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholics by Certificate by me

Witnesses: T. G. Lishman and E. B. Scott

This confirms both the ancestry and descendant links.

Thanks
Rachel

The tree has been updated with all this information - so please take a look. Our efforts are now concentrating on identifying the (numerous) children of Theresa Silmon and her two husbands: for details see the tree.

A not so easy task as four, possibly five, children were born prior to mothers maiden name appearing in the registers. Some names have been eliminated due to closeness of confirmed births or certificates purchased that have confirmed that assumptions were just that – assumptions!!

We have more certificates on order to confirm links – which are due later this week.

Thanks to everyone for your support, encouragement and research help – this has been invaluable in helping identify new lines of investigation.

If you'd like to see the tree please PM me.

Many thanks

A nudge to catch up with part 1

Wish i could get on the site to have a look

If you like to see the 'Patricia Armstrong - A Sad Little Tale' tree PM me and I'll give you access.
Thanks

God bless you all

N

With regards the Barrow marriage/link... if there's anything you need looking up, I'm there... It would be good to be able to contribute something to the project. Just let me know, but allow at least 10 days as I'm away.

Liz

Hello All,
I'd like to check a marriage detail which may be connected to the family that is recorded in the London Times Marriages 1982 - 2004
If anyone would be able to do this for me I'd would be grateful if you could email me off line.
Many thanks
Paul

Hi Paul

I've sent you a copy of the pdf re the above marriage. I have a few more names to add now so will send you an update soon.

t.t.f.n
J