General Chat

I agree with Eldrick too.....

If these people and their 'gift' were geniune then the world would be a different place, cuz they would have an influence upon events....
predicting disasters.
solving murders etc...
settleing inheritance quarrels.
etc, etc, etc,
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I know what you are all saying. I lost my dad in April this year and would love to go to a medium, but it is too soon for me yet. When I feel ready, I will go to see one, but will still go with an open mind.

I do believe in mediums and psychics to a certain extent, but must admit to not totally believing!

I wouldn't go so far as to say that there is no such thing as a genuine medium. I have never seen one and don't know anyone who has, but I remain open minded to the concept.

I would say that there is no such thing as a genuine medium that charges people money to contact the spirit of deceased relatives.

that seems to be the problem nowdays eldrick
most mediums are con artists and pray on defencles and insecure people

but there are a few genuine ones to but they only become
tard with the same brush

Ok, won't ask you about your personal experience. Good debate, Eldrick.
Sue

Tthat was a professional experience!

My personal experience is probably worse.

So it is personal experience that has formed your opinion. Fair enough and I think I would feel the same contempt under those circumstances.
Sue

I think a lot of the time, if people go away feeling comforted, that is OK - as I say, belief is personal. Where it becomes truly despicable is illustrated in a case I had involvement in.

A mother had lost a child under circumstances that led her to believe (wrongly) that she could have prevented it.

She started to visit mediums and found one that said the right things.

£25,000 later and a broken marriage, it came into the open and her husband involved us.

Words cannot express the utter contempt I have for that 'medium'. That is where it becomes harmful.

Best wishes to you, Harry.
Sue

Sue,
Take your point, but there is a saying - "when you have nothing, hope is everything"

Best wishes Happy days

I see the point, Maggy, and I do agree to a point - where is the harm. However, what about people who are distressed and desperate for a sign from a loved one. It seems cruel to fool these people.
Sue

Interesting, Harry. I think it's the money making that annoys me. However, supply and demand.
Sue

I have to agree with Harry. Most people go to see these shows with an open mind anyway, and accept that they are entertainers. If people go home from these shows feeling better than they went, what's the harm?

I know many of these people and they are fakes. However, I would say that they serve a useful, if doubtful, purpose.
They rarely peddle bad news and usually give slighly uplifting messages (?), which is good for the client.

I have told this story before. Our magic club hosted a pair of well knoiwn psychic, mind reading entertainers and they explained their fakery in detail.
The silly part is that afterwards, most of the women in the audience formed a queue to have their hands read, etc. Plainly there is an in-built need.

Happy days

Happy days

Well, surprise! surprise! I agree wholeheartedly with you, Eldrick. As I said on your other thread, I do think that there are some people who are more sensitive or aware than others but I really have no time for the stage mediums. Still each to their own.
Sue

I have no problem with spiritualists etc....who go quietly about their beliefs and don't try to make outrageous claims or charge lots of money. Each to their own.

I have nothing but deep contempt for the stage/celebrity ones who aren't good enough to be magicians or illusionists or mentalists, so they peddle their wares as psychics or mediums.

And any other one that takes money. Parasites.

The reasons are personal, though :-)

Again, curiosity not criticism Eldrick. Do psychics, mediums, clairvoyants etc. make you angry or do they just irritate you? I admit to feeling annoyed with fakes who feed off the the distress of others.
Sue

Kay - depends on which uncle you mean....but one of them had a dog.

Actually, he had 2......hmmmm. Spooky.

Hi Whirley - thansk for that clip. I am gobsmacked. Can't believe it.

I've watched it 57 times now and I still can't see how it's done....absolutely brilliant.

Now thats what I call magic!

I've always found these folk *entertaining*

Must ask Camberwick. I have feeling .your uncle had a dog,,,am I physic,?~~