General Chat

Agree totally, Robert.

I always wonder when people say things like 'I've got nothing to hide'. Hmmm. By consenting to ever increasing violations of privacy, where do the 'I've got nothing to hide' people draw the line?

Micro chip implants at birth? A national DNA register? CCTV in the living room? (to prevent terrorism)

And I fail to see how CCTV can make anyone safer.....look at the amount of crime caught on it! It can make it easier to watch someone getting beaten up, granted, but it doesn't stop it!

I think this generation will be the last to experience any degree of freedom. Our lives are more regulated every day and people fall for the 'its necessary to combat crime/terrorism/benefit fraud' or whatever.

This government has successfully laid the foundations for an oppressive police state, and nobody seems to have noticed: you can be held without charge for 42 days (plenty of time to make something up); a minister may make, amend, or repeal laws without the "burden" of due process (Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill) - ripping up Magna Carta; you can be arrested under terrorism charges for heckling a politician; we are being watched wherever we are within the country. The ID card will be the icing on the cake - why so much detail required just to prove who you are? Why not register iris scans?

If you ever read the famous - or INfamous - Lisbon Treaty, you will find that it is a master-stroke of obfuscation. As for the demanded referendum, to refuse it is actually in direct contravention of the Treaty (Article 8A para. 3). A German politician summed it up, when referring to the Irish referendum - "Why should we allow 0.7% of the population of Europe decide its future?" Well, 70% of the population of Europe want referenda, however, 0.00000007% (the politicians) decide that they know what's best for us. Such is democracy, Europe-style.

You may have nothing to hide, but - believe me - you do have a lot to fear!

When young people have gone missing in the city centre, the Police have at least been able to track their movements to know where to search, by finding them on the cctv. Although often too late, they end up in the river, they can be seen and the Police can tell if they look wobbly through drink etc or if they have been set upon.
I think they have helped in many cases of disturbance etc and people can be helped if spotted being attacked etc.
Lizx

A comparison of the number of cameras in each London borough with the proportion of crimes solved there found that police are no more likely to catch offenders in areas with hundreds of cameras than in those with hardly any.

In fact, four out of five of the boroughs with the most cameras have a record of solving crime that is below average.

The figures were obtained by the Liberal Democrats on the London Assembly using the Freedom of Information Act.

A senior Metropolitan police officer has described the UK's CCTV strategy as a "fiasco", saying billions had been spent with very little impact on either stopping crime or providing evidence.

But don't count on the UK's flocks of cameras being taken down any time soon - the comments appear to be a thinly veiled plea for more cash to be poured into the country's favourite surveillance technology.

Our village hasn't got them either and the curtains never move but no-one ever seems to miss anything lol

Massive investment in CCTV cameras to prevent crime in the UK has failed to have a significant impact, despite billions of pounds spent on the new technology, a senior police officer piloting a new database has warned. Only 3% of street robberies in London were solved using CCTV images, despite the fact that Britain has more security cameras than any other country in Europe.

The warning comes from the head of the Visual Images, Identifications and Detections Office (Viido) at New Scotland Yard as the force launches a series of initiatives to try to boost conviction rates using CCTV evidence.

Did you know that the increasing use of CCTV in public places has caused a debate over public surveillance versus privacy

we are always being watched lol...in my village CCTV isn't needed...just the curtain twitchers lol

Well Bob i think you are right how do they identify people

well i don't care if i am being watched cos i ain't doing anything untoward if you don't have anything to hide then it shouldn't be a bother.We would be only too glad of CCTV when something happens and the culprits need tracking.
CCTV really doesn't bother me

the images are hardly HD though are they?

how on earth they identify people amazes me.......

Bob

But does it work lol

Are we been watched ?
Is it there to keep a eye on us ?