General Chat

There are several interpretations.
This site puts forward one viewpoint
http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=400

Here is one lot trying to convince us that it does exist and is even in the centre of the Earth
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

This is the opinion of a different group having read exactly the same texts. For briefer explanation read last paragraph
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheBibleHell.html

What these and other sites I have looked at show us is that translating any document means either a loss or confusion of meaning. In English we have the Anglo-Saxon word Hell but that word has been used as a translation for several different words with rather different meanings in the Bible.

Different groups studying the same texts come to very different conclusions and this rather leaves each of us to make up our own minds.

Sue

Rolling Eyes .I do it all the time .I remember my mum saying don't roll your eyes at me!!!!!!

If the Bible is to be believed, then Hell does not exist,as a place of torment...it is just a name given to the common grave....
as it says
The dead, are dead and conscience of nothing, and that they await a resurection.

Hi Rose

It works fine when applied to Lottery numbers and other things random.

But when it comes to the choices we have to make in life - I think not.

Sue

I don't believe that it exists as a place.

However I do think that we will be accountable for our behaviour and that the most important thing will be how we have treated others.

It's interesting to read the accounts of those who have had near death experiences. There seems to be a recurring theme that such people feel they had a life review and were to be judged. I am uncertain how I feel about these but I am not prepared to dismiss them as the effects of a dying brain as I know some scientists do.

We come from such a wide variety of backgrounds and experiences. Some people seem to have very fortunate lives while others face troubles and deprivation from the start. Some die very young before they have had an opportunity to prove whether they are good or bad by nature. In many ways reincarnation with the ability to grow in spiritual understanding would be a fairer system.

Interesting to think about.

Sue

Creeps off thread quietly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That phrase "What will be will be" is one my mum used to use (as Ann well knows lol) and is guaranteed to have me rolling my eyes!

xx

Nothing, Ann - Rose is slapping the wrong person.

Honest, guv, it was me!

(without lol)

Sue

*ouch* what did I do ? lol

slaps Little Ann for using that phrase LOL.... it is haunting me now! ;)

xx

Possibly, Ann - but only if I let it

Lol Sue

What will be will be :)

Hi Rose

thanks for another interesting thread.

As I was reading this through, I thought along the lines of

"if hell is worse than some of my worst moments, then please, I don't want to go there" but

"if heaven is half as good as some of my best, can I have a ticket please"

And then I came across the entry on Buddhism, ie

"The wise man makes his own heaven while the foolish man creates his own hell here and hereafter"

Lol Sue

Which says it all, really.

Sue, when I lived in Cornwall as a teenager I often used to see the 'Woody man' as my mum and I called him,he dressed a little like an old monk, sackcloth really, he had a little shelter up in the woods, a fire always burning and seemed to all intents and purposes to be happy... and why not lol...it appeals to me sometimes !

As long as it is a choice and not forced upon someone by circumstance , not all homeless people want, or can cope with living the way society deems the 'norm'..... I would say that the help should be there when needed and wanted..but people should be left to choose when that is...

xx

I don't see it as trying to convert someone to thinking my way. Example - we have a homeless man in our town. Many times one of the local churches has taken him in hand, cleaned him up, fed him and given him a bed. Within a couple of weeks he is back on the streets. He appears to be happy but people always feel they must "help" him. Is he unhappy or 'tra'ling wrong' or are these kind but perhaps misguided people trying to help someone who doesn't want help? Makes you think.
Sue x

I believe hell does exist Rose but that we, as good people, with good intentions, can overcome it,

Caz xx

Well I certainly wouldn't pop up in front of someone I deemed was " trav'ling wrong " and say " you don't wanna do it like that .......you should do it like this "...........lol

But a listening ear never goes amiss.........nor a helping hand if required.

it certainly can be Jill...my particular Hell at the moment is called...... but thats another thread entirely lol

xx

teach by example comes to mind rose.....

"Hell is other people"