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BrianW

BrianW Report 13 Nov 2012 18:04

I was somewhat miffed on Sunday when our bellringing team had been asked to ring from 10.00 to 10.00; stop until 10.25 so the service could take place at the war memorial then ring until 10.50.
We always finish up the Rememberance Service ringing by stopping one bell at a time, so it drops from 6 to 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 bell (the tenor) so we timed it to finish the method at 10.45 the do the sequenced stop.
Blow me, before 10.45 we were asked to stop when still in the method and the choir started up.
So we were unable to do the sequenced stop which is a mark of respect.
Words will be had before next year ! !

Dawnieher3headaches

Dawnieher3headaches Report 13 Nov 2012 11:10

Tiddlers primary school sells them and lets them wear them think they put them through the buttonhole on shirts or poloshirts. Only restriction on it is they have to give a silver coin thik that is so that even the poorer families with a lot of children in one family can still take part.


Tiddler got all upset on Monday as she suddenly realised that the 11th had fallen on a Sunday and meant they couldnt have the 2 minute silence at school as well.

D x

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 13 Nov 2012 09:59

Stephen if there were more people like you in the world it'd be a better place, you are so right, it you feel deeply about something, get off your bum and DO something about it.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 13 Nov 2012 09:02

Firstly, my personal view is very much pro the poppy. My great uncle died in France in 1917 and one of those poppy petals represents him.

I like to wear the poppy, but far more important to give money to support the Royal British Legion and Haig fund. And if yellow poppies or no poppies still result in a good collection for injured servicemen and families, then so be it.

The tradition can take over from the purpose, I feel. Fireworks Day was a good old public holiday (holy day) when we christened Protestant children, set fire to "horrible" old Fawkes and set off fireworlks and gave the Catholics a bash on the nose. But thank goodness these days that has largely been forgotten and we all (whatever religion or denomination or no religion) have a jolly nice evening.

I want to continue this lovely tradition of Remembrance and poppies and encourage schools and businesses to be challenged why they won't allow pupils and staff to wear them in days leading up to 11th Nov. But the £10 note pushed in the collecting box is what is really important.

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 13 Nov 2012 07:01

It could be that the school has a blanket ban on all charity symbols, I suppose. I know some do. Lots of charities have wrist bands and I know some local schools don't allow them in case they get caught on something.

Maybe the school remembers the war dead in a different way - a special assembly perhaps.

I'd need to know the reasons why before getting aeriated about it.



Susan-nz

Susan-nz Report 13 Nov 2012 05:50

Unbelievable....

I agree with Mrs Brown :-D

Jean

Jean Report 13 Nov 2012 01:46

if pins are a health and safety reason. a bit of velcro tape would solve the issue. why do we in our country have to bow down to other religions. we bow and salute our fallen heroes and will always do so..we will remember them for ever.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Nov 2012 00:40

*the one particular teacher concerned was that the poppy was not part of the school uniform.*

Hmm, well. It does seem rather small minded. After all, Poppies are only worn until 11 Nov, then they can be removed... if they haven't already fallen off!

Next year, it might be worth asking her Head of Year what the policy really is, or whether there is a blanket ban on all non-uniform pinned badges, with no exceptions. If they still say 'No Poppies', you could try taking it to the Board of Governors

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 13 Nov 2012 00:16

I find the school's attitude amazing.
These children are at SCHOOL, not a detention centre (where they're probably allowed to wear poppies, albeit without pins)

As the child is 12 - it's not a primary school - surely they can handle pins?

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 12 Nov 2012 18:02

our school sells poppys but secures them with tape, which usually falls of to be honest,

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 12 Nov 2012 17:34

It's not part of Guiding uniform either but every single one of us in this village wore one

BarbinSGlos

BarbinSGlos Report 12 Nov 2012 17:27

Doesn't teach the kids about respecting Rememberance Day does it.

At a parade yesterday morning and not a bobby in sight a car was trying to drive through. When a man tried to stop him he gave the v sign and drove round them all.

Disgusting

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 12 Nov 2012 16:27

Thats a disgusting attitude by the school. :-|

Next step is head teacher, then local paper if you are still not satisfied.

I work in a primary school & poppies were sold & children wore them. Dont know if pins were used to secure them though.

My daughters secondary school also sold poppies, with pins, we laughed as she came home with just a stalk the poppy having fallen off. Shes said "Ive paid for it, the stalk stays!" ;-) :-D :-D

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 12 Nov 2012 15:31

neither is it part of a military uniform!!!

but soldiers wear them..

PollyinBrum

PollyinBrum Report 12 Nov 2012 14:05

I personally (and this is just me) would ring the school and ask for an explanation, they should aplologise to children concerened. Not part of the school uniforn! What a feeble excuse, I admire your granddaughters Mum and hope that the little girl wore her Poppy at school. Last year our local council said that the were not allowing Poppy collections in the City centre on the Saturday before Rememberance Sunday. I along with many other peolpe complained to the Council the local press and I emailed my local MP. I am happy to say that the council changed their decision and the collections went ahead.

Budgie Rustler

Budgie Rustler Report 12 Nov 2012 13:41

Just come off the phone from talking to grand daughters mum.
Seems the only reason given by the one particular teacher concerned was that the poppy was not part of the school uniform.
Nothing was mentioned about safety.
Strangely enough the teacher in question was wearing a poppy themselves.
Daughter sent girl back to school next day with the poppy on show and was told if her teacher asks her to take it off again, the teacher must phone her mum and give a valid reason as to why he/she (the teacher) could wear a poppy but not the pupil.

Don't know whether grandaughter took the poppy off before she got to school or not, she didn`t say.
Suppose she might have done, as she is a little on the timid side.

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 12 Nov 2012 13:34

Sounds like it's a safety issue because of the pins. I'm sure there will be an explanation.

Merlin

Merlin Report 12 Nov 2012 13:16

Perhaps your Local Paper or even the Nationals could find out the reason, plus an apology from the School involved. :-S

Rambling

Rambling Report 12 Nov 2012 13:13

My first thought was the same, re the pins being a safety issue.if some teachers were wearing poppies it isn't likely to be because of a blanket ban for dubious reasons.

Wend

Wend Report 12 Nov 2012 13:10

It could be a safety issue, but if I were your granddaughter's parent, Jimbob, I would definitely enquire with with the school as to the reason.