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Interesting man, lol that's not a phrase
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JustJohn | Report | 19 Nov 2012 20:09 |
Gladstone provided a resolution for Ireland back in 1880's, I believe. I wonder why that was never implemented. I have spent almost all my adult life being continually shocked at man's inhumanity to man in Ulster/North of Ireland. |
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Rambling | Report | 19 Nov 2012 19:57 |
John "Ireland has been a thorn in our side......" :-| :-0 , I can't say I would have put it like that ! but it's all a matter of perspective of course ............ my point was that I can see a certain resonance between the two situations: Ireland/ England...Israel/Palestine) |
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JustJohn | Report | 19 Nov 2012 19:39 |
Just heard that Welsh international footballer Rob Earnshaw now plays for Tel Aviv and is living in the midst of this hell. And the daughter of a friend works and lives in Jerusalem. Brings it all a bit too close to home :-( :-( :-( |
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~Lynda~ | Report | 18 Nov 2012 23:17 |
Sue, father in law was in the Palestinian campaign, and he was of the same opinion as your dad. |
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SueMaid | Report | 18 Nov 2012 22:59 |
My father was in the Palestinian campaign at the end of WW2. His sympathies were firmly with the Palestinians. Listening and reading many discussions, reports and informed articles has led me to the same conclusion. My father always said that things would never change and I don't think they will. |
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JustJohn | Report | 18 Nov 2012 22:49 |
Rose Ireland has been a thorn in our side for so many years. Bombings in Birmingham, in Manchester and all the tragedy in the north of Ireland. |
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JustJohn | Report | 18 Nov 2012 15:11 |
Merlin You sound like Captain Mainwaring :-D |
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Merlin | Report | 18 Nov 2012 13:56 |
The Jewish people are but one of the twelve tribes of Israel,they were intended to wander the world because of the Crusifixion of Jesus. However Hamas are the problem,there are lots of Palestinians who wish to live in peace with Israel,but Hamas in conjunction with Iran wish to wipe them off the face of the world.If the same happened here to us I think we would retaliate the same way as Israel,defend our people and our land and way of life.**M**. |
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Rambling | Report | 18 Nov 2012 13:39 |
John "So why are both sides arguing about land? " |
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JustJohn | Report | 18 Nov 2012 13:26 |
Both the Jews and the Arabs are wanderers. Always have been. Do you remember the WDYTYA programme with Julia Sawalha. It was only 2 generations ago that her Arab ancestors had any fixed place to live. |
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SheilaSomerset | Report | 18 Nov 2012 13:05 |
Yes, you're right Rose - it's a very old, complex problem with many, many facets and it's hard to find completely unbiased articles! |
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Rambling | Report | 18 Nov 2012 12:23 |
Sheila, thanks for that it looks an interesting site, the maps are especially useful and the 'bare bones' history....not entirely sure of the article I'm reading on there, smacks a bit of the old 'Zionist conspiracy' theorists? But will read up on 'both sides'. |
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SheilaSomerset | Report | 18 Nov 2012 11:50 |
Rose - you may find this useful |
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Rambling | Report | 18 Nov 2012 11:29 |
DET it's such a complicated situation, and one I know little of to be honest, to my shame. I've always been 'pro--Israel' as such, but it does seem that a real shift of approach has to be taken by Israel on this if they are ever to have anything close to a resolution....I think it is one of those times when 'keeping your enemy closer' (and that phrase used 'winnimg hearts and minds') would be better than driving them into extremism. |
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+++DetEcTive+++ | Report | 18 Nov 2012 11:19 |
Like you, I caught part of the interview on BBC News 24, and couldn’t understand why (as I thought) a BBC journalist was so impassioned. Thank you for providing the link. |
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Rambling | Report | 18 Nov 2012 10:36 |
I say ( or think) that often, but just caught part of an interview with an Israeli journalist Gideon Levy on tv speaking about Gaza, and was struck by what he was saying, his 'presence' ( and the name Gideon lol being a big fan of Criminal Minds). Google threw up an article which might be of interest if anyone saw the interview or indeed is watching the situation worsen. |
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