General Chat

Gwynedd Council, has begun issuing the on-the-spot fines in North Wales, said they are necessary to prevent traffic jams and make it easier for pedestrians to cross the road. Its parking wardens have been issued with tape measures to check cars are complying with the regulation, (12" in most places) A spokesman said that “they can’t just take a guess on it”.

The council pledged to fine any driver £70 if their car ends up further than 20 inches (50cm) from the edge of the road.

Does this mean we have to take a tape measure with us to help us park ? ;-)

Well, if the elected councillors decided to create that regulation as a by law, and the local people didnt object, there is no cause for complaint.

:-D :-D

Did they have a choice?

Did who have a choice? Before by laws-are enacted, they need tp tell people what the proposals are. If people cant be bothered, esp the traders, to tackle their councilors over it, then they cant complain when it comes back to bite them in the bum.

Councils in England and Wales made more than half a billion pounds profit from parking in 2010/2011, It's another tax by stealth.



Just off to find my tape measure :-D

I think there was a regulation about distance from the kerb when you parked your vehicle years ago. however, I thought it was Metric now,would be interesting if it was challenged in Court about inches.

parking offences. PCN 26 is the one which refers to the distance from the kerb. Unless the council has displayed notices quoting any other maximum distance, vehicles can be 'ticketed', under PCN 26, if they're not parked within 50cm from the kerb:


On a driving test most examiners say it should be a reasonable distance? usualy approximately 8 to12 inches

Roy

I am aware of the legal requirement regarding parking, however I think a traffic warden with a tape measure checking is s step too far.

I live in North Wales and they get money out of you any way they can.
My s.i.l.had £60 fine for doing 34 mph coming up to the 40 mph sign.

I am aware of the legal requirement regarding parking, however I think a traffic warden with a tape measure checking is s step too far. ............................... not if it went to court , it then become factal not hear say, and the council wins. measering has always been accepted in court

I thought it was Metric now,would be interesting if it was challenged in Court about inches........... nope inches are aceptable in court. as speeding is still in MPH not KPH and road signs are in Miles not Km. the only area wear mictric system is infoceable by law is food. Pubs still use pints and gills. the roads system is still in miles. land is still sold in hectares

A hectare is a metric measurement : 10,000 square metres.
Visualised as 100m by 100m.
It is 2.47105 acres.

Paula, As you say you are aware of the legal requirement regarding parking,

The Police use measuring devices to enforce laws such as speed limits how would you suggest the council enforce distance from the kerb laws without a measuring device to prove/enforce the law

Roy

Edit, If people don't want a ticket for illegal parking then they can always park legally

The real scam that councils are using to rake in money are with the car parking charges you mentioned, In my town last year it cost me £1.30p for 2 hours, Yesterday parked in the same place and it cost me £4.10p for 2 hours

North Wales was beleagured for years by over-zealous traffic policing. Richard Brunstrom was Chief Constable (nuff' said), Brenda, 34mph!!!!! He was lucky not be put in Colwyn Bay nick and key thrown away :-)

Eldrick makes a good point about bye laws. I was not aware of that. But if you also have over-zealous and short of money councils as well, people in N Wales must need shearing of their spare cash more that the sheep on the hillsides.

Personally, I am lucky. I have a little car that I can park sideways as it is same length as breadth. And almost impossible to not park within lines. But cannot guarantee I won't park 2 feet from kerb :-( :-( :-(

Ilive in ANGLESEY (MON) i the same rules will be applied here in the new yr, we are not surprised ,we have the famous police taliban here.just waiting for a fine for breathing. :-D

It wouldn't surprise me if Conwy followed suit. You can get a parking ticket here if your bumper is over the line at the end of a parking bay.

About 18 months ago a council pick-up truck was given a parking ticket for parking on yellow lines, while the workers were cutting the steep grass bank between the road and the Castle Walls. Wasn't sure if I should laugh or give the Traffic Warden a round of applause

The Council pays the grass cutters. The Council pays the Traffic Warden. So the Council pays the parking fine to ...... the Council. Presunably the ticket was cancelled but what a load of ...... insert your own word :-S :-D