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Nonsense Verse

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JerryH

JerryH Report 7 Jan 2013 15:43

Thank you both.

Sound ideas for me to follow up on.

My Aunt was taught that verse in the late 1920s, and she is now 90.

Not much wrong with her memory!

Jeremy

KenSE

KenSE Report 7 Jan 2013 15:11

This gives some details but not her birthplace

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=sh&GRid=13921846

KenSE

KenSE Report 7 Jan 2013 15:07

The song Crimpton Krompton Canary Bridge was written by Winona Oliver who was born in England and died in the US in 2001.

This link gives some details about her
http://www.spokerecords.co.uk/spoketrails.html

I couldn't find a Winona Oliver on freebmd births but there are quite a few Winonas. If you can find which one is her it might help pinpoint the place that is the source of the rhyme.

Von

Von Report 7 Jan 2013 13:27

Jeremy
Have you contacted the Devon FHS?
They have a lot of people there who might be able to help.
Also the Rootsweb Devon thread might be able to help if you post the same message on there.
Take care
Von

JerryH

JerryH Report 7 Jan 2013 13:18

Sorry Ken, I missed your reply.
I had added this to "My Watched Threads" but am still awaiting the email that would have informed me.. :-P

Yes. this would seem to have had similar roots. Don't think much of the song though!

Always a problem when dealing with Folklore and the British Oral Tradition.but the names used are so unusual. Certainly not I think from the Latin
vulpus = fox if I remember.....

Jeremy
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KenSE

KenSE Report 6 Jan 2013 20:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBWOMcmVeCA

This song seems to have some similarities with the nonsense verse
However the gun is Elsie and the tickling is done by a vengeful woman.

JerryH

JerryH Report 6 Jan 2013 15:01

Well that seems to have stumped everyone :-D :-D :-D

I am not surprised as I have been searching for an answer to this for several years now.

Perhaps a little more explanaation of the famiy background might help to pinpoint the possible areas:

William's father was a linesman with CWGPO, so travelled around a lot before he settled the family in Brentwood, Essex in the late 1870s.
His wife's family came from Mid Devon and 2 of her siblings went into School teaching in the Tiverton area.

Does that help?

My guess would be
Jack Carranus = Fox
Lady Campanas = Goose
Rustyrannus would be Gun

Jeremy :-)

JerryH

JerryH Report 5 Jan 2013 17:00

This is perhaps a little "Off Beat" but I would like to trace the origins of this verse:

AS I WAS GOING OVER CRIMPCRAMP CANARY BRIDGE
I MET JACK CARRANAS CARRYING LADY CAMPANAS
OVER CRIMPCRAMP CANARY BRIDGE
SO I SAID TO JACK CARRANAS, IF I HAD MY RUSTRANNAS
1'D TICKLE THE BACK OF JACK CARRANAS
CARRYING LADY CAMPANAS OVER CRIMPCRAMP CANARY BRIDGE.

This is a verse taught to my Aunt (my late Mother's younger sister) when she was 6 years old by her father and may have originated in Somerset or Devon.
William, my Grandfather was born in Samford Arrundel, Somerset in 1869.

Has anyone heard that verse or similar who could cast light on its origins?

Thanks,

Jeremy