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BEDROOM TAX

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Diane

Diane Report 25 Jan 2013 22:53

Maggie I think if you share custody of your children then it would not apply as the housing in the past have given single parents who share custody 2 bed accomadation so they can stay with the other parent when needed.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 25 Jan 2013 22:38

Diane - I'm in the same boat, but still (just about) working.
I too have a small living room and no dining room, so have a dinng table in the living room - I tend to sit at a table when i eat!!

How would people like my grand daughter's father fare?
Daughter left grand daughter's father when my grand daughter was 3 (she's nearly 11 now) He also has a 5 year old son from another (now broken down) relationship.
He has a 2 bedroom flat and has both children to stay at weekends. He sleeps on the sofa then.
If he lost his job, he'd have to downsize to a 1 bedroom, and wouldn't be able to have both children to stay - thereby denying the children access to each other - and they're half brother & sister, the same as my grand daughter is half sister to the two boys my daughter has since had

So much for keeping families together :-P

Diane

Diane Report 25 Jan 2013 22:23

Maggie at the moment I am using my spare bedroom as a dining room because my living room is to small to have a table in it, I can also use it for when one of my 12 grandchildren want to sleep over, but as you say those plebs don't think I should have the room for one of my family to stay over :-(
I have only recently stopped working and when I was for ( 12yrs ) I didn't get any housing benefits, but hey ho I'm just a single divorced person who hasn't any right to have a reasonable size home.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 25 Jan 2013 22:00

I looked to swapping to a smaller (council) house, but the rent was only a maximum of £5 a week cheaper, I didn't like the area, and none of them had open fires.

Diane, you saying about your son eventually moving out, both my children have, since leaving home, come back to live with me for a few years. If I hadn't had the room for her to stay, one daughter would eithr have become a great expense and burden to society or dead.
As it stands, she's now in a very responsible job and supporting herself.
In September my grand daughter will be going to secondary school near me. As she lives in the middle of nowhere, she wants to stay with me occasionally (after-school activities etc - saves her mum having to drive miles to pick her up,). If I wasn't working and was moved to a smaller place - she couldn't.

Obviously we plebs aren't entitled to an extended family :-P

Diane

Diane Report 25 Jan 2013 21:38

Amanda I have joined, lets hope something can be done :-)

Diane

Diane Report 25 Jan 2013 21:34

Jules I so agree with what you say :-)

I have lived in my flat for over 10yrs, my 27yr old son only left in June last yr, so until then I needed 2 bedrooms, I have only just for the first time in 10yrs been able to decorate my living room and have my first fitted carpet put down, why should I move especially as my housing do not have any 1 bedroom flats were I live and I grew up as a child in this area.
I do understand the need for social housing for larger familys and if I was in a house with 3 bedrooms then I would be happy to down size to a flat as long as it wasn't high rise and in a bad area. At the end of the day most of the tennants in my flats are couple's without children. Another point is if I was to rent privately a 1 bedroom flat it would probably cost about £20/30 more a week and they would pay the full amount so were is the sense in that.

Amanda2003

Amanda2003 Report 25 Jan 2013 21:26

http://www.facebook.com/groups/antibedroomtax/

Anyone that uses Facebook and is against the bedroom tax might like to join this group .
Maybe if enough people stand up and get their voices heard then the Govenment might do a U turn ?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 25 Jan 2013 19:02

Apparently it will only apply to those of working age (deemed to be 16-65).

"Tenants who are of working age and claiming housing benefit to help pay rent, but have what the Government deems to be a ‘spare’ bedroom will be affected from April 2013. The following people need their own bedroom:

a couple
a single person over the age of 16
siblings of different genders over the age of 10, but siblings of the same gender are expected to share."

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~

~~ Jules in Wiltshire~~ Report 25 Jan 2013 16:50

I was made homeless by the army in June 2011 and was offered a 2 bed bungalow..After being here for 18mths I am told that I have to pay bedroom tax...What im wondering is why did the council let me bid on a 2 bed property?? They must have known it was in the pipeline..I also have to pay 25% of my council tax bill also in April, that works out at about £85 a month...Im disabled and am unable to work and they have just cut my benefits so I don't know where they think I am going to get the extra money...The DWP tell me to move to a smaller place!! I would like to know how when the housing association have over 2000 people that need smaller places and they have none avaliable, especially places for disabled people!!!!
Why should I move anyway, are they going to cough up for new carpets, curtains, blinds etc, not on your nellie...I am settled here and have good neighbours that look out for me...I know of 5 people in my road that have 2 and 3 bedroomed properties and live there by themselves..They are council properties....

Jules x

Merlin

Merlin Report 25 Jan 2013 13:58

I think this is similar to what happened after the Russian Revolution,State control over everything and multi family occupation of all houses (Except for the Elite) It stinks and should never be allowed to happen.**M**.

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 25 Jan 2013 11:54

The Government talk about going forward. That’s a laugh. The ill, sick & disabled could end up homeless with ATOS stopping any money they get. People with one or more spare rooms could end up homeless due to extra tax. It may end up like in the 1700's & 1800's with 2 or 3 families in one house but then they may tax you for sharing & renting. If that’s the way forward they can stick it.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 25 Jan 2013 11:51

The thing is that probably there are older people who would like to downsize but they don't want to go into a smaller house, they want accommodation without stairs. Pity they were not more forward looking years ago, some area have lovely little bungalows for over 50s but not enough. Maybe something like prefabs but made out of different material would have been a good idea.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 25 Jan 2013 10:46

People living in their own properties and on benefits are already affected. The number of spare bedrooms is taken into account when calculating, for example, the proportion of mortgage interest that will be paid ( for two years only now) where the person is claiming because of unemployment.

If I win the lottery that is one thing I would like to do, build accommodation at a reasonable rent for single people, especially for those who had lost their home through no fault of their own, those coming out of the armed forces etc. :-D

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 25 Jan 2013 10:00

what about the people in london who live in masive houses and flats
who live on benifits
and we are all contributing to their massive rents with our taxs

now thats where the money should be clawed back from

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 25 Jan 2013 09:47

And elderly people with families who live away will see less of them as there will be nowhere for visitors to sleep.

Maggie, I have a feeling that people in their own properties on benefits will eventually be affected.

Island

Island Report 25 Jan 2013 09:12

April 1st?

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 25 Jan 2013 08:40

its been brought in to stop single people taking up housing needed for families
but they havent thought it through
as there isnt enough single bedroom house or flats to accomadate all the single people
who live in bigger houses than they need :-(
but then again why should social housing pay for people to live in houses ect to big for their needs

lucky for us it doesnt affect home owners :-D :-D

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 25 Jan 2013 06:40

It does seem very unfair on the face of it. But is it fair that a family of four have to live in a one-bedroomed flat?

Long term the solution is more social housing but in the short term?

Does anyone have an alternative solution?

Diane

Diane Report 25 Jan 2013 05:22

No they just need to be an extra room, if you are single they say all you need is 1 living room, 1 bedroom, a kitchen and a bathroom with toilet anything else is considered a possible bedroom, but if you are disabled this does not apply as you may need an extra room for carer to sleepover in.

LadyScozz

LadyScozz Report 25 Jan 2013 03:27

Do they have to have beds in them?

Many people use rooms as studies, sewing rooms etc

I know that's splitting hairs, but...........!!