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Wow, Sue. So much of interest in that article. They were sent to these Asylums because they displayed passive-aggressive behavior or because they were too beautiful!!!

"Passive-aggressive behaviour can be seen as a personality trait or disorder marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed, resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations."

I had better not expand my thoughts :-) :-)

Thank you Susan and Sue for info.

Emma :-)

Good thread John thanks for that have learnt something
new today. :-)

This is from Wiki,,

If you read right down to the bottom of the article there are books beside the ""Kathy ones""

It also says which Countries Magdelene Laundries were in..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_Asylum

Just want to make it clear that the two posts from aivlyS that have been reported were not reported by me. I have just decided to ignore her as it is always the same old.

I would prefer her posts to be left if they help her self-esteem.

Some very interesting posts since. :-D

This admittedly is a novel but nonetheless interesting in the research needed to have written the book.

A kindle edition for £1-30

The Leaven Of The Pharisees


From Amazon


In his will, Molly's father asked that she bury his ashes in Ireland and track down his old friends, but her journey will take her far beyond her original destination. She will travel into a world of shame, where children were taken from parents and locked up in Catholic institutions. She will run up against a wall of silence, from the nuns and priests and the men who were once inmates. She will discover her own inheritance, a legacy that threatens to crush her soul and break the heart of the one man who is willing to risk everything in an effort to expose the shocking truth.

Have just read that account Susan and ,to me, it appears she has written a book of lies.
If she in fact did not live in that way and had those experiences then she's made a lot of money from others' miseries.

Susan with numbers I looked in again and wow such a lot of info
but very little I could see for kindle, will have to pay a visit to library
I think.

It was mentioned Magdalenes in England any books on them?

Emma

Apparently, and not just according to The Daily Mail, Kathy's story was lies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-490977/Lies-Little-Miss-Misery--memoir-abused-girl-fake-says-new-investigation.html#axzz2K1VvP3S9

The 1997 Channel 4 documentary Sex in a Cold Climate interviewed former inmates of Magdalene Asylums who testified to continued sexual, psychological and physical abuse while being isolated from the outside world for an indefinite amount of time.

Girls who were unfortuate to become pregnant when single,sadly paid the penalty and were victimised as 'fallen women' while the men?...got away scot free :-| :-|

Some of the girls were taken there as pregnant teenagers & never left. Their babies were taken from them at birth & adopted into what was classed as 'Good Christian Families'.

I was enjoying reading this thread,being interested in the main topic (and not having to duck and dive ) when it turned again :-|.........Sylvia give it a rest!! if you don't like John why put your blood pressure at risk :-(

Mau

I thought this thread was about a serious topic, but once again it has been side tracked.

You can purchase the Magdalene Sisters DVD for as little as £1-98 on Amazon. if you enter Magdalene into the Amazon search box you will find many books about life in the the laundries at a very reasonable price.

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You mean I never offer you the information you want about me John ... ? Don't need to try and trap you you you tell stories and trap yourself .

You have to consider the economic implications as well as the social and religious ones ( and the religious ones were and are often the strongest consideration...or at least that which held the most 'shame').

A father whose daughter had an illegitimate child, if they kept it, has to provide for that child ( in the days when women married and brought up the children rather than working) as well as possibly his own. You see it so often that the illegitimate child of a daughter is listed as the child of its grandparents....who hasn't seen that on a census?

Ask George III, aivlyS. He was very specific about who were "proper" grandchildren. There were plenty of others who today would have come to the throne before Queen Victoria.

But, no, I am not going to answer any questions from you. You try to trap me and others. Yet never seem to offer anything yourself. Had quite enough of it. Ignorance is bliss.

I have never heard of the Magdalene's and have found this
very interesting.

Sue in Leeds thank you for info re Kathy's Story will have
a look and will download to kindle if possible.

Emma :-)

Sylvia, wouldn't you think that John might have put the topic up BECAUSE he has just heard of it and it interested him? That would be my assumption if anyone posted a thread on a topic they knew little about. I have certainly posted threads on topics that have 'just come to my attention' :-)

I don't think it's unbelievable that John ...or anyone else...has only just heard of it...before the last few years on this board and via books/films , a lot of us hadn't. Where there is 'shame', there is always corresponding 'secrecy'.

:-S :-S :-S

I see a wisp of snipe on the horizon. How lovely :-D :-D :-D