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Should Catholic Priests be allowed to marry ???

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TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 23 Feb 2013 21:54

GRMarilyn my question was as follows
My question's would be this...
If the Church was to say it was ok for Priest's to marry would it be just a man to a lady or would same sex partners be included?
IMHO you can't have one rule for one without the other.

GRMarilyn

GRMarilyn Report 23 Feb 2013 21:58

OK .....Sorry Ron .....I did not read that correctly.

In my opinion......... I say why not !.........Yes again .. :-D

TheBlackKnight

TheBlackKnight Report 23 Feb 2013 22:02

Thanks nice to see some body agree with me. I can't ever see it happerning though. :-)

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 23 Feb 2013 22:03

Cynthia
Joeva was posting an awful lot of information and the facts from a website that may or may not be correct.
Again, I would rather do my own research and engage in genuine debate based upon my knowledge

Once again, can we return to the thread topic Cynthia - if you want to argue about individual postings then fine but I would rather debate the topic

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 23 Feb 2013 22:03

what about their rights to live over the brush ??? ;-)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Feb 2013 22:05

It would certainly be interesting to see how the catholic church would deal with that question BK. However, I have a feeling that they would take a negative stance. What do others think?


No such rules Joy.......open forum. All thoughts welcome. :-D

GRMarilyn

GRMarilyn Report 23 Feb 2013 22:08

Ron........... Thats what I mean when I say I do not agree with all Doctrines of the Catholic Church .

Its a changing world the Catholic Church has to change with it !!

It wont be in my lifetime......but it will succumb.


I'm still a Catholic !! :-D

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 23 Feb 2013 22:10

I will do Rose, providing I understand what I read :-D
The Quakers interest me more so because my daughter, a non believer, once worked with a lady who was a Quaker, and my daughter would often say, that if she had to have a religion, it'd be Quaker, as the lady she worked with had such a wonderful view on life, which she had because of her beliefs, that sounds good to me :-D

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 23 Feb 2013 22:21

I think from a practical point of view nuns would be unlikely to want to / be able to marry?

In closed orders they deliberately choose comtemplation and prayer away from the outside world, In open 'working 'orders they live together as a community, serving God through serving their fellow man.

I don't think it would work if they had to stop prayers to feed the OH and bath the kids, hoover etc etc... convent life is geared to devotion to God and planned around that, family life is not, just in the practicalities of it.

Not wishing to be sexist lol, but a male priest /vicar etc who marries will have a wife at home while he concentrates on his religious duties and devotions... a woman will be expected to do all that AND the rest... ;-) ( a generalisation but not too much of one?) No disrespect to the house husbands and those who go 50/50...just that I am not convinced they are in the majority as yet, maybe one day :-D

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 23 Feb 2013 22:24

Rose i worked in a convent when i was 18
and i have seen goings on


that made my hair curl without a perm ;-)

sure opened my eyes

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 23 Feb 2013 22:27

I am also fascinated by the Quakers. Many years ago read a book about Fox. And some of my distant rellies up in Cumbria were Quakers in 18th century, and it was very strong in those parts.

Tried a few times to attend a service, but never happened. Please keep me in loop.

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 23 Feb 2013 22:28

Rose a valid point but very much a generalisation and slightly sexist.

Also, if a person married someone who was already "in the ministry" then it could be argued that they knew what they were marrying into.

I think closed orders are not really part of this debate because of their very nature. Open orders are a different matter but it still goes against the very basics of the catholic church surely?

John what happened although you tried?
Would they not allow you? Not very inclusive if that is the case!

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 23 Feb 2013 22:29

I don't doubt it Joy :-)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 23 Feb 2013 22:33


I think the Quakers have the right idea.

No sermons,

No clergy.




just sit in a circle of silence at meetings , mulling.

But they have everyones interest at heart,,,,,,,they will be on the ball to conduct same sex marriages.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 23 Feb 2013 22:35

I did recognise it as sexist Errol, but nevertheless not entirely inaccurate in my experience .

But I was addressing the queries re nuns specifically, because I consider that a different choice, to becoming a 'minister', whether that be a male or female priest or vicar.

SheilaWestWilts

SheilaWestWilts Report 23 Feb 2013 22:38

As the first paragraph in Joeva's post so simply puts :- the laws and doctrines of the Catholic church are MAN-made, so surely MAN can change these if he so desires? Just like our government can change laws on Sunday trading, same-sex marriages or tax loopholes.

The goverment, of course, is slightly more representative in that it includes WOMEN.

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 23 Feb 2013 22:51

But Sheila, many who make such laws and subscribe to such doctrines claim they are from god. If you asked a genuine christian who has been involved in making such laws he/she would claim that they were made because god led them to come to that decision and instigate that law or doctrine. To say they are purely man-made is very simplistic surely?

SheilaWestWilts

SheilaWestWilts Report 23 Feb 2013 22:52

Simplistic but right :-D :-D ;-)

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 23 Feb 2013 22:57

but if they are purely man-made then that negates the whole thing - you cannot say this is god's law but comes from man!
Religious law, rules, ethos etc etc is based on what people from those religions and with those beliefs genuinely believe has been either dictated to them by their god or they have been l;ed to it by prayer.

SheilaWestWilts

SheilaWestWilts Report 23 Feb 2013 23:08

If that is the case, Errol, then surely the debate about allowing priests to marry is pointless because the Church's doctrines are God-given and cannot be changed.