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Should Catholic Priests be allowed to marry ???

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JustJohn

JustJohn Report 28 Feb 2013 09:49

Cynthia's post about Sister Wendy reminded me of that lovely "Singing Franciscan" Father Francis Maple. He was based in Holywell in North Wales from 1975 till 2007 and sang all over the place and was in pop charts ( I think) collecting funds fro CAFOD (Catholic Agency for Overseas Aid).

Now appears to have retired to St Walberg's Friary in Preston. A very popular man in Holywell with his guitar and his lovely voice :-) :-)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 28 Feb 2013 09:22

Some monks are ordained but relatively few. Those who are ordained are able to celebrate the Mass.


I used to enjoy watching the Cadfael series with Derek Jacobi. In the story he had been a soldier at the crusades - been married and had a child and renounced it all before taking up his vocation as a monk.



I also enjoy watching Sister Wendy on TV. There was a great programme about her on Christmas day evening. She has aged considerably and now gets about with a motorised chair. She talked about her life and her vows.


Her life has been and still is interesting.......she now spends much of the day in contemplation and lives in a sort of pre-fab which has been specially built for her. She used to live in a caravan in the grounds of a convent but that more or less fell apart.


She goes to bed at 5pm and rises at midnight (which is common practice for nuns) and joins the other sisters for prayer and then goes back to bed.


Actually, she doesn't really join them, she sits on her own round a corner. If I remember rightly she is the last of her Order and the convent she is with is of a different Order.


Yes, she is slightly eccentric, immensely intelligent and extremely devoted. I do wonder if she is on the autistic spectrum but her sheer humility and love of her God absolutely shines from her. I find her a great inspiration.


I love it when she is on the One Show with Phil Tuffnell as he seems so fond of her when they are looking at great masterpieces of art.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 28 Feb 2013 08:41


But you dont have to be a virgin to join ,,,,,divorcees can become priests or nuns or monks.

:-)

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 28 Feb 2013 06:42

I think monks and priests are different animals.

Not all monks are priests, I think most aren't in fact.

My understanding is that nuns and monks renounce all wordly things and take vows of poverty, celibacy and obedience.

OneFootInTheGrave

OneFootInTheGrave Report 28 Feb 2013 06:28

ErrolSheep. if the rules on celibacy were changed and priests were allowed to marry, those in closed orders would probably have to leave the closed order if they wanted to marry.

Is joining a closed order, for a better description, not like joining a private club which would have a set of rules and regulations that a member has agreed to when they joined it?

I second John's wish to join a silent order ;-)

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 28 Feb 2013 00:16

John some may agree with your comment about a silent order.

Back to topic - how can you have one rule for one and another for others?

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 28 Feb 2013 00:14

I have never had a lithp !

How dare any one thuggetht tho.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 Feb 2013 23:58

:-D :-D I say nuffing

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 27 Feb 2013 23:56

love the hat errol
reminds me of a master bakers hat

:-D :-D :-D

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 Feb 2013 23:56

:-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 27 Feb 2013 23:55

Errol. Good question. I suspect Cardinal O'Brien and others are suggesting parish priests could be married. In same way that Vicars can choose that option.

I think celibacy has always been a requirement of closed orders for both Anglicans and Catholics. But not for parish priests and it was interesting when someone found out last night that HALF the Roman Catholic priests in England in 1500 were married men.

Perhaps I should join a silent order :-D

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 27 Feb 2013 23:54

closed or clothed? I don't understand your french accent with a lisp :-(

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 27 Feb 2013 23:48

non, je ne regrette rien

sorry this beret keeps making me act all franco-thingy

Back on topic, I wonder what a strict order would make of this. In other words, it is all very well to debate whether a priest, for example, should be allowed to marry but how would that fit in with a closed order?

Not put that very well but I know what I mean

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 27 Feb 2013 23:39

Sue. I am not bothered one way or another by reports or Genes decision to uphold them. At least I was true to myself, tried to get the discussion back to the thread subject and posted what I thought was a lovely prayer from someone like Cardinal Newman (who is not the most popular man on my side of the Christian field).

And I do believe that marriage of priests or celibacy of priests is something to be discussed by all types of Christians - and those who do not profess to be Christians but take a genuine interest in such a subject.

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 27 Feb 2013 23:26

Kindly refer to Muffy's post at 12.09

If you don't like GR's decision contact them.

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 27 Feb 2013 23:15

Tricky one I guess John - I surmise that maybe people have learned from someone that it is quite acceptable to go off at a tangent.
Maybe people just find this an easy thread to chat on, maybe they think it is a place to say what they think even though it may be off topic - who knows what has influenced that concensus?

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 27 Feb 2013 23:05

Look at the thread title. This was happening when OFG posted his prayer.

Everyone seems to want to play on this thread. Is it just because it has been interesting, successful and has got loads of hits.

Why, when there are literally thousands of threads to play on do you want to use this? You could even start your own thread.

Have no idea why I was reported earlier today for posting a prayer for unity by Cardinal Newman after OFG posted the other prayer. His prayer was ignored, mine was reported. No idea why reports were upheld by Genes. Not that bothered - if reporting me gives pleasure, then feel free.

eRRolSheep

eRRolSheep Report 27 Feb 2013 23:02

thank you beret much

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 27 Feb 2013 22:58

Gotta say it looks better on a sheep :-D

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 27 Feb 2013 22:58

"You Can Leave Your Hat On"


Baby, take off your coat, real slow.
Baby, take off your shoes. I'll help you take off your shoes.
Baby, take off your dress. Yes, yes, yes.

You can leave your hat on.
You can leave your hat on.
You can leave your hat on.

Go over there, turn on the light. No, all the lights.
Come back here, stand on the chair. Ooh, baby, that's right!
Raise your arms in the air, now shake 'em.

You give me reason to live.
You give me reason to live.
You give me reason to live.
You can leave your hat on!

Suspicious minds are talking. That's right, they'll tear us apart.
They don't believe in this love of ours.
They don't know what love is.
They don't know what love is.
I know what love is.
You can leave your hat on.
You can
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D ;-) ;-)