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stinks
of coruption and cover ups to me :-(

"It is a tragedy for all concerned and Cardinal O'Brien will have to face the law same as anybody else who admits to a crime."


I don't think it's a tragedy for Keith O'Brien...he's the architect of his own downfall..I feel for all those that were affected by his actions though and think it's a tragedy for them.

It is a tragedy for all concerned and Cardinal O'Brien wil have to face the law same as anybody else who admits to a crime.

But they are not all "at it", which I think was the contentious remark at beginning of thread. I was surprised that the number "at it" in the Catholic Church hierarchy is roughly in line with the general population. That is very disappointing to me personally.

But I did realise many years ago that just because someone wears a collar the wrong way or swings a sheep hook round in the pulpit does not necessarily make his private behaviour any different from Joe Bloggs on the Clapham Omnibus. It should, but clearly it doesn't :-(

Has it really suprised anybody?

so,,,

priest, archbishop and a cardinal was he at it all that time and is there more to come.?......lordy lordy. :-

will we be hearing choir boys singing their heads off.......

;-) :-0.

I find that particularly sickening tbh.

Denied it while he could when allegations were anonymous and non-specific..but once he was banged to rights he admitted it.

hmmmmmmm.

I am not lost for words! ;-)

can you be arrested for dropping your denials?

Just seen that Joy..

From ITV....

The full statement from Cardinal Keith O'Brien:

In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have

become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me

to contest them.

However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been

times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me

as a priest, archbishop and cardinal.

To those I have offended, I apologise and ask forgiveness.

To the Catholic Church and people of Scotland, I also apologise.

I will now spend the rest of my life in retirement. I will play no further

part in the public life of the Catholic Church in Scotland.

he has dropped his denials and admited sexual misconduct :-(

its just been on the news

I now appreciate why others often C&P the post they are responding too

fortunately, I stated to whom I was responding,

Would not want anyone thinking I was writing to myself,

Talking, that's ok, but writing, definitely ....... OTT



EDIT ....... It appears that the same persons posts have also been deleted on other threads, that cross referenced back, to comments made this one ........ Strange ....

Ann Cardiff

I RRd a post and

Admitted I had RRd on the thread and

Showed you where it was posted on thread that I had admitted RRd

. ( you had posted on the thread that the RRd had not been acknowledged)

Explained why it appears that an amended post was RRd and

It was fortunate that I had C&P a thread I was RRd. .... Prior to it being edited by the

poster

because it would make a mockery of the RR system


I will not bother to ask why any of this is thought to be " unpleasant" towards you

I found your post unpleasant ....

Followed procedures ...

Took ownership of the RR

what more is there ...........

Ann Cardiff

Oh I did not know that .......



still, in this case it was quite fortunate for GR to see what the objection was

Gossip besmirches everyone - eventually.

Just to clarify once again Ann Cardiff

The post I reported .... Was as originalsy posted

As I said,

In the time it took me to C& P your post, and add it to RRd. -- and type my reason for the RR to Genes ,

You presemably, had edited it ......

I never saw the edit until after I had RRd

And, I do not have any abilities to foresee edits

Cynthia,,,,

I think you'll find regardless of status in a role of care,when they step out of line they get a public bashing,rightly so imo,,,,,be them clergy,a parent,carer,etc,

at the present time its the clergy.

there are wonderful men of the cloth in all religions,so not all are tarred with the same brush,,,,,,but lets face it the RC priests do put a mockery on the faith.

I have been ironing.

I had already made the decision to report Ann's remark, unless it had been edited, when I came back. I have only ever reported one other comment in my 10 years on the site.

However, I see that I have been pipped at the post.


I quite agree that clergy should set a good example as, indeed, should teachers, care workers and nurses.


We send our children to school and trust the school to have the child's wellbeing at heart. The reports of school teachers who have been accused of 'inappropriate behaviour' with children in their care is appalling. Do ALL teachers behave like this? Of course not.


Sometimes we have to place those we love into care thinking that they will provide the care we are unable to give. The cases of humiliating abuse by care workers to those in their care is horrifying. Does this make ALL care workers guilty of abuse? Of course not.


We go into hospital to be nursed back to health. Nurses have been accused of abuse and neglect to patients. Are ALL nurses guilty of this behaviour? Of course not.


Mention the word church/priest/nun......and off we go.............so, so sad :-(

Errol

I know,,,,,,how long it can take to summon up courage.!

3 of these are priests themsleves,they know the importance of these circumstances from past cases.

He tendered his notice on the 18th Feb 2013 ,,,,,the Pope gave him leave asp.he still had till the 17th March 2013 to officially carry out his duites.......so these allegations to me was known of on or before the 18thFeb,2013.

I'll wait for the facts or whatever will be issued as facts by the RC church and Vatican.

I still have my eyebrows up in my hairline re a Pope resigning and now this resignation and the allegations floating around the media only reinforce my initial feelings.

Whatever the truth there appears to be something very wrong within an organisation which is supposed to be 100% trustworthy.

My understanding is that although they do indeed retire at 75 they are required to actually hand in their resignation - if someone knows more on this please add and I will stand corrected

Kay sometimes it takes a long time for people to summon up the courage to make a report or allegation