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Allan Report 5 Mar 2013 23:59

Didn't Mothering Sunday also used to be called Simnel Sunday many years ago?


SylviaInCanada Report 6 Mar 2013 00:32


NOPE ...........

....... it's just to make people feel guilty because they can't afford such gifts.

Another of the "overflows" from the US ................ only we are closer, geographically, to them than you are.

I hate the way that so many things increase in price for the 2 weeks before Mother's Day, or any other holiday for that matter!

We buy flowers every week, except for the 2-3 weeks before holidays .................... they can triple in price!


SylviaInCanada Report 6 Mar 2013 00:37


yes, it did ................ and that's when you are supposed to eat Simnel Cake


Allan Report 6 Mar 2013 00:56

I remember my mother making Simnel cakes. If I'm not getting my cakes mixed up, it was a rich fruit cake with a marzipan, or almond paste top which was somehow toasted to make it look scorched


SylviaInCanada Report 6 Mar 2013 01:12

Allan .............

That's right ........

................. and there is also supposed to be 11 "blobs" of marzipan or almond paste spaced equally around the top.

If I remember correctly (it's many many years since I've seen one :-D ), each blob is supposed to represent one of the Apostles ................. with Judas missing.

I've also a vague memory that sometimes there was a layer of marzipan or almond paste in the middle


Allan Report 6 Mar 2013 01:18


I didn't remember any marzipan in the centre of the cake, but you are quite correct.

On googling it, there is a disc of marzipan place in the centre


SylviaInCanada Report 6 Mar 2013 01:30

I also read somewhere that Simnel Cake was particularly common in Lancashire ................. no idea why!

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 6 Mar 2013 08:26

Never heard of the cake and my mum is a Lancs lass, bet she'll know :-D

Exactly with my gist Sylvia, when I was little Mothers day was when I saved me pennys and brought her an orament cheap and tacky but you know she still has everyone we ever brought her and wouldnt part with them for gold, we would cook the dinner and tried to make sure she sat with her feet up. But as you say now adays its about the presents and I said I dont want my children spending their money on me, I dont really want them to do my housework either as I would only have to go it again afterwards :-D and plus the fact they are now all adults and like me work very hard through the week.. Like you and many others I know I am their mother everyother day of the year, I have the grey hairs ( swiftly removed) and the scars to prove it ;-)

Gowd I sound such a grump ungrateful mare lolol :-D


GinaS Report 6 Mar 2013 08:31

Yes I remember Simnel Cake - it was popular where I lived in Lancashire.

I love Mothers Day - it was a chance to acknowledge and spoil mum. As children we always bought her a posy of violets. We saved our pennies a few weeks ahead. Years later where she lived it was celebrated in May and we kept up the tradition of a small posy of flowers.
My children fuss over me and bring some flowers, they enjoy doing this and the amount of money spent is minimal. I would not have the heart to say no let it go.
Most things are commercialised, Christmas, Easter, Birthday, Anniversaries etc., it is up to us not to get sucked in and deal with events according to our means.


Cynthia Report 6 Mar 2013 08:45

Hi Hayley,

It has always been traditionally known as Mothering Sunday - Mother's Day is just the commercialised name for the day over here.

There's loads of info on the history of it if you google but, basically, it is a religious festival and always falls on the 4th Sunday of Lent, exactly three weeks before Easter Day.

Sylvia gave a good explanation of things - celebrating mothers and Mother Church (the church where you were baptised or attend).

Mother's Day in the States was started in the early 1900's by a woman (whose name escapes me now), who started a campaign to have a day which recognised the importance of mothers. Being a persistent woman, the Senate

As for Simnel cake - whilst I've always known about them - I'm not sure I've ever tasted it. I'll have to look out for a little one 'cos I'm the only one who likes marzipan in our house :-(

I quite agree with you Hayley, mothers are special EVERY day of the year not just on that particular day :-)

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 6 Mar 2013 21:35

Simnel cake you mean Easter cake? ( Just had to google) my Aunt used to make it at Easter or for Easter as I remember I never liked it but I dont like mazipan or fruit cake, we used to visit our Aunt my Mum's only sister who was 14yrs older than mum, she had no children and when we used to visit her house smelt of fresh baked bread and ginger cake, she used to make me apple juice as well, her house was spotless ( I think she had a bit of OCD) even to this day when I smell or taste ginger cake or apple juice I always think of my Aunt, at Christmas and Easter she used to give us a piece of cake to take home Mum used to elbow me as a reminder to just accept the cake, so she could have it of course. :-D :-D

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 6 Mar 2014 22:45

******* Just gave this a nudge*****

Because ................... Once again we have had for the past 2 weeks, what date is is mother day and want do you want? I have said for 2 weeks nothing not even a card. ............and it ant sinking in

I have come up with a cunning plan I have asked that the 3 of them together make a scrap book and add their Mum memoires :-D

Itsmytelly thinks it will end in tears ;-)


~Lynda~ Report 6 Mar 2014 22:50

I'm with itsmytelly, if they do it, ask them for a box of kleenex to go with it :-D

Lovely idea though :-D


maggiewinchester Report 7 Mar 2014 00:16

Lovely idea Hayley - especially for future generations, but I daren't suggest anything like that.
Since having grandchildren, things have come to light....... :-|

Grandchildren were playing my daughter up - she pointed to her mouth and said 'white lips'.
I asked what that meant - she replied 'When you were getting annoyed the edge of your lips went white :-S
This led to the discussion between my daughters of my 'peculiarities'.
Apparently, another sign they were really getting on my whick was my eyes - they moved sideways rapidly. They'd deliberately wind me up, just to see this phenomenon.
The idea of my foibles being in a scrap book for future generations isn't a pleasant prospect.

Ah well, at least they can't say they didn't get a fair warning that I was about to erupt!!

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 7 Mar 2014 06:52

I think the white lips concept was what Itsmytelly had in mind and the tears will be me in total denile :-D


Paula+ Report 7 Mar 2014 07:17

I wish my dear Mother was still here, make the most of the time you have together.
I miss her every day

<3 <3


wisechild Report 7 Mar 2014 07:50

I think the origin of Mothering Sunday was way back, when children left home & went into service at a very young age.
Their employers would give them the whole Sunday off so that they could get home to see their mothers, usually carrying a bunch of wild flowers they had picked on the journey.
Change a bit, hasn´t it??

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 7 Mar 2014 08:09

Paula <3

Just a tad Wisechild, as I said for me it was when they proudly handed over their handmade cards.........................or one year when my daughter was about 2 or 3 one saturday evening went on and on about having cake after tea, when I asked why she repiled to share your love with your sons and daughter she had obviously been out with her dad to buy my mothersday present. :-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Mar 2014 11:34

Slightly off subject. Hubby and my birthdays are only 9 days apart

Many moons ago we decided it was like buying yourself a pressure to swop gifts and and as money was tight it wasn't practical.
Hubby now does get flowers for me and we go out to dinner to celebrate our joint birthdays .

He is 80 next week and he has told everyone he doesn't want any presents . The family though are taking us out to Sunday Lunch on the 16th as they want to celebrate his 80th

Hayley   Empress of Drama

Hayley Empress of Drama Report 30 Mar 2014 12:11

******* Another nudge ******

This morning I have been handed a beauiful hand made scrap book tied with ribbon with old photos and their memories, I think my daughter has done the most of it but the boys have contributed which was a shock, ok they dont seem to have grasp the concept for instance they have put a photo in and more interested that a old ford escort is in the back ground but they made the effort. I will treasure it forever.

:-D :-D :-D