General Chat

I see the OP has been reinstated - quite right too - whether you like it or not, it's a fact

I suggest that anyone who reveres the 'hammer and sickle' emigrate to North Korea. I'm sure they would really appreciate the commusist ethos of starving people to death sending them and their families to gulags for the slightest misdemeanour, ie waving a foreign flag!!! no freedom to travel abroad or indeed in your own country without permission - crikey what a wonderful way of life! what are we all missing!!!!!

I have always supported any man/women's right to withdraw his/her labour and go on strike for what ever reason,

I also support a persons right to go to work

The difference between their right to strike and what historically has been the position of striking miners is that when the miners go on strike they turn to violence and intimidation when ever another worker tries to exercise his/her right to work

Tonypandy Riots (1910) was no different the violence broke out when others where brought in to do work to keep pumps and ventilation going, without such maintenance work being done any miner will tell you the cost of getting the mine going again after the strike would have been very expensive


Roy

Absolutely Robert

Much the same as the last election too I suspect InspectorGreenPen.

I've voted Labour a few times and I kind of resent being called a lazy thug.

Absolutely, Robert, well said.

It is a shame that the real facts get distorted time and time again. And there was the almost petrol rationing too.

Labour were glad they lost the election as it meant they could lay the blame for having to sort it out on someone else.

I am appalled that some of the rabble for rioting (probably this weekend) in trafalgar Square etc have been encouraged by at least two teachers. One of vulnerable children. OK he no longer teaches but when he was, what was he teaching those children?

Most of those who will be rioting are anarchists, nothing, or very little to dao with Baroness Thatcher and celebrating her death, it is just a good chance to cause mayhem and attack the police. One of those teachers was pictured with a placard of a hammer and sickle. Maybe she would like to experience life under strict communist rule.

Labour lead us to our darkest hour, when Thatcher came to power, . Inflation was 20%, basic rate of income tax was 33%, mortgage rate was 15%, we had big loans from the IMF, money was be taken abroad because the top rate income tax was 98%. The tax payer was subsidising the car industry to make cars we couldn't sell, and they we subsidising the steal industry to produce steal that nobody wanted, the unions were destroying democracy in this country. 10% of the work force were unemployed and our credit rating with the rest of the world was Junk. Wilsons government closed 290 mines were thatchers government only closed 160, so it was labour that put the majority of miners out of work WE WERE THE SICK NATION OF THE WORLD, THIS ALL HAPPENED UNDER LABOUR

ITS ABOUT TIME THE SOCIALIST OF THE COUNTRY TOOK RESPOSIBLITY FOR THERE ACTIONS AND STOP BLAMING THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THERE MESS RIGHT.......LABOUR HAS PROVED THERE ARE THE PARTY OF THUGS , AND THE PARTY OF DISRESPECT AND THE PARTY OF THE LAZY

Tonypandy Riots (1910)
Three days of rioting in Tonypandy during a mining dispute resulted in one death. Armed English troops and police reinforcements were sent in by Winston Churchill to quell the trouble. Churchill's name has been mud in South Wales ever since.

[from Wikpedia]

In my opinion , Margaret Thatcher was the last PM who actually did what a Prime Minister is supposed to do. She did what she believed was best for the country. Rather than spending her time setting her family up for the future and worrying about how popular she might be.

Lyndi, I'm inclined to agree with your analysis,

Roy

I agree with you NanaSue, sadly some people seem to think it is necessary. There is a lack of common decency these days :-(
GinN, the young ones have possibly been brought up in homes where disrespect and hatred is the norm :-(

A lot of those celebrating and partying over Mrs. Thatcher's death are young people who were not even born, or were small children when she was in power. They can't really know about life under her policies - they are just jumping on the anarchy bandwagon.
I find the whole celebration thing disgusting and nauseating.

I'm glad some of the posts on this thread have been referred - nothing to do with me before anybody suggests.

Whatever she may have or have not done there is a respect for the dead that is lacking. All the vitriol barbs is it really necessary.

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I am very much on the fence where Mr Thacher is concerned I have to admit I was one that voted her in, I have geat respect for her as a leader but felt she went to far in the end.

As a member of a non militant trade union I felt that those who constantly held the country to ransom needed taking down a peg or two, but she was not content with that and permanently biased the power balance toward the companies.

Now my kids work all the hours their bosses expect, way over their 40 hour week without the slightest additional payment. Despite that manufacturing in the UK was decimated.

On balance she does deserve respect as having more "balls" than any politician since.

As for those celebrating her death, I can understand a miner who lost everything as a result of her policies feeling hostile, but I am infuriated by the archaistic oiks we saw using it as an excuse to riot and steal considering they were not even in their dads underpants at the time!

Mayfield
That's the rant for this week over

;-)

No surprise there at all.

Guinevere, You disagree, ........... No surprise there then

Roy

You can choose your friends, but you cannot choose your family

Roy

Well said LilyL !

Pathetic, eh, Muffy.

Re Churchill - there are some in Coventry who believe he knew the city was going to be blitzed but did nothing to warn them because it would betray that the code had been broken.

Evidence for this is very slim but nonetheless some believe it and didn't grieve for him when he died either.

Roy - I disagree - Thatcher led us *to* our darkest hour in peace time