General Chat

Just a thought....if you watched Anne Robinson on Watchdog which was on the programme before you would see what plastic surgery,Botox etc can do...don't think she looks better for it with her scraggy neck.
Marianne Faithfully looked a lot better and I think she is a similar age.
Was a very informative episode...I never knew about the Russians raping all those women.The Jews did go through it,even those who were only part Jewish.

You're absolutely right Rose - I have to confess I also do it!

Well, I think all you ladies look beautiful and natural. And, in case of a couple, very young. Now to find my glasses :-S ;-)

I sympathise with the glasses though. because I do it lol.

I can see some things better without, it depends on closeness, and I also think there may be some natural instinct to take your glasses of when looking direct into someone's face? It may be that you feel they ( the glasses) are hiding what you are thinking . :-D

Hayley if you want botox that's your prerogative :-) It's a personal choice what people do to look 'like they used to' lol, but I wouldn't think you were a nicer or more interesting person just because you had fewer wrinkles ;-)

:-D @ Rose. I thought she was great and thoroughly enjoyed the programme. I have to agree with BC about the taking on and off of her specs though - why didn't she just leave them on?

** hides botox leaflets behind back **


Tobe honest Rose considering the demons she has had to carry I thought she looked well, yes of course she has aged but she looked natural not plastic ...

She's sounded like that for years though. I must admit being younger than some of you I wasn't really aware of Marianne Faithfull in her hey day ;-) 'There's a little bird' was the only influence she had on me...and much later, with the husky voice in evidence 'The ballad of Lucy Jordan'.

But having watched last night's episode I liked her enough to be absolutely fuming when some 'person' said on FB that she had 'turned off straight away after seeing how MF had let herself go'... I didn't comment but had a look at said person's FB picture.. and was soooo tempted to say 'well 40 years ago did YOU look like you do now, carrying too much weight, wearing glasses, looking 'mumsy' '? lol ...It does rile me this obsession with women having to 'preserve' their youth for the entertainment of others ;-)

I am also going on to pick up on BC shallowness too ...Marianne leather trousers at your age love NO ! Even in Berlin. :-( And though she may of had the sweetest if not perfect singing voice when she was 19 she certainly hasnt now, too deep and ravaged she sounded like an aging music hall drag act. * Meeeeeeeowwwww *

I too enjoyed the programe and felt Marianne's respect and understanding for her Mother grow the more she found out. I at times thought she was also reflecting on her own life and perhaps her own parenting skills....is Princess flu making me a tad too deep?

I still find the way branding of human a little too much to stomach even now, but I did enjoy the programe and found it interesting and informative which is what I want when I watch it . :-D

She should have contact lenses, BC.

Just as an aside, I watched the rising Labour shadow minister, Chuku Uwuma, the other day. I note that 3 months ago he had brown eyes. Now he has the deepest and loveliest blue eyes. Think I know how that happened :-D

Anyway, back to Major Faithfull and Baron Sacher Baron Cohen ;-)

The content was very interesting, but, call me shallow, I was really put off by the putting on/taking off of Marianne's specs.

I agree, Maggie. And I could just listen to her lovely speaking voice for a lot longer.

There is some connection between that family and masochism, and it may be that discovering that line might be a bit too black for a family show.

Just seen this on Wiki:

Faithfull's maternal great great uncle was Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, the 19th century Austrian nobleman whose erotic novel, Venus in Furs, spawned the word "masochism".

And:

Her father, Robert Glynn Faithfull (an Army Major and Professor of Psychology) , was a British spy during the Second World War, whose own father had invented a sexual device called the Frigidity Machine.

So I think Channel 5 might be interested in developing her roots further :-) ;-)

Fascinating programme on Marianne Faithfull. 'Bare bones' of Hitler's regime and it's effects on people.
But......
I want another programme on Marianne Faithfull - how did her g x lots grandfather get a 'Ritter'.

And Mr Faithfull sounds like he could be interesting...

Marianne was quite lovely still, I thought. Had a pleasant surprise. I thought she looked better than she did 20 years ago. And wasn't she tiny?

But so upset by the content. Her poor mother and grandmother. I just could not imagine in my wildest nightmares 100,000 women in Vienna being treated like that at end of WW2. :-0 :-0

Just hope she is as gorgeous as I remember her when I had a real crush on her :-D Wow, she was pretty.

Actually, for all that she has done, I think she is probably a very nice person and I hope that pleasantness will show through.

Really looking forward to it - hankie at the ready :-) :-)

Reminder...as if you need it :-D

Emma :-)

Sorry, Emma :-D :-D

You wrote at same time I edited. And you have a good memory ;-)

Wrote a piece up on Marianne Faithfull which you
had a thing for, or so you hinted.

Emma

Edit.....10th September post

Who is it this week?

Edit. Just remembered. It is Marianne Faithful, the lust (as opposed to love) of my late teenage years.

Wonder what you will all think of my taste in ladies? Has age been as kind to her as it has to me ;-)

Last of the series next week with John Simpson the
BBC world affairs editor.
He thought his grt grandfather was Samuel Franklin Cody,
the Wild West entertainer who also was the first person in
Britain to conduct a powered flight, this was not the case.

Emma :-)

Hayley :-D It would be very interesting to look at your tree as I am sure it would give me loads of presentation ideas. I am even toying with the idea of learning calligraphy and trying to do my trees like the lady did for Sarah Millican.

On Halle Berry's tree, I did note that a 9 x gt grandfather was BEAMSLEY in Boston. I remember from another WDYTYA (may have been Richard Madely's Canadian mother's family) that this same man was featured. He seemed to be one of the earliest settlers in Boston area.