General Chat

Think Nigel's a very good looking man (so looks like me). And enjoyed programme very much. He looks like his grandfather Sir Cedric Havers, I thought. And the old uncle was great - still on top of his game at 94.

Not sure that mill masters and hackney masters made him ordinary. These would have been the movers and shakers where they lived and were the employers and took the risks. Not many working class ancestors would have been made bankrupt and managed to get their widow a nice house and income for over 20 years.

To be honest I found it a bit boring tonight....... I loved the mill though.

And I found Dear Nigel annoying cant see why you all swoon over him ladies :-P

He does have a wicked twinkle in his eyes.

His family of millers in Cornwall could have known mine as they were also millers...saw all the documents when I went to records office in Cornwall about 6 years ago... .
I do like Nigel..missed last week..must have a look on iPlayer.

Ah but he proved he was not posh on his maternal side. :-D

LOL....am in mine now MG...ooops :-D

Emma :-)

Sorting out cocktail dress and tiara, for dear Nigel tonight.

I would hate him to see me in my pyjamas!


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Hoping the programme will be as good as last weeks.

Emma :-)

Awww Joan.............I loved your memories of Rose Street, how wonderful :-D

I think Una had the hat on she wore as Aunt Sally in Wurzel Gummidge :-) She seem a lovely lady

Nudge for tomorrow it's Nigel Havers

next week
Minnie Driver.

Emma :-)

I didn't know that either John, that Benedict was Wanda Ventham's son, I remember her also, and just looking on google you can see a strong resemblance, I think.

Two things I have wickied today. Father of her two boys at beginning of programme was Nicky Henson. They divorced in 1975 but are on good terms. And she has known Benedict Cumberbatch (Sherlock Holmes) since he was 4 as his mother was her friend Wanda Ventham.

Well, I never knew that. I do remember Nicky Henson and Wanda Ventham very well from those days - Nicky was dashing and handsome, Wanda was gorgeous :-) :-)

I really enjoyed it. I quite admire Una. She was lovely in those early films and has remained the same - even at 75!! (edit - 76)

And nice to follow the journey of somebody who knew hardly anything about genealogy or her family.

My dad knew hardly anything about his father's side for exactly the same reasons. His father came from quite an established family (in Wolverhampton) and his mother came from a respectable working class family from the eastern side of the town. She would invite her own family to come over very often, but never invited my grandfather's family. And rarely visited them unless it was for something special like marriages or christenings.

So, exactly the same - except the class thing was other way round. And Dad never did any research into his mother's side as they were so "ordinary". That was left to me after his death 35 years ago. And they are far from ordinary - some great characters.

I have just found those posts of Joan to be absolutely fascinating. To see your mum, yourself and friends on old footage - very emotional :-) :-) :-)

I loved it found it really interesting. What the hell was Una wearing? She looked like yer sinster prim Aunt that used to call on a sunday after church. But it was funny to watch her cringe whilst watching the 1950's advert of herself, even she said " No Una to much "

I found the stuff about Rowntrees really interesting companies like them Cadburys and Fry's choc all Quakers and really tried to their workers a better quaility of life some call it controlling I think they were just trying to encourage the demands of drink and show people you dont have to be rich or drunk to have a good time.

What a shame about Una being kept from her Grandparents what an awful snob her Mother must of been and what a shame her Father went along with it.

amokavid definitely not boring
Nor una's story tho i do think it would be nice if they took examples from us ordinary folks
i felt very empathetic because some of it feels close to my recent finding proof of My great grandfather's name and later a photo but not definite proof that it is same man yet . My mother didn't show her emotions but has framedher new Grandad's photo where he is smartly posing for his 1916 naturalization document . we discovered the names of the next generation up this am and they were still alive in the 30's-40's am about to inform my aunt + see if she had una stubb type tears at news that her Russian greatgrandparents were alive during her lifetime . !!!

Thanks Sue.

Had a wee bubble when I watched it the second time & recalled the memories, an age thing I think !

Joan.

Amokavid (Joan)
It was lovely to read about your memories and like you we did most of the things you did.

Back in the late 40/early 50's.

Thanks for writing about them. :-D

I watched it all again on Iplayer,couldn't see mam amongst the other workers leaving the factory,nor my step dad,(wasnt bothered about seeing him!!) but looking down Rose Street I could once again see us children playing in the street, skipping, hopscotch, gathering on our bikes to go for a ride to the nearby stray, playing schools on the sunny side of the road, taking the neighbours babies out for a walk in their prams to the nearest park, walking to the local swimming pool (across from Rowntrees factory) where we could stay all day for 4 old pence.

There was a lane entrance between our house & my pals house & we would put up a rope & hang blankets on it to make curtains for our concerts & get our mams chairs & stools for the audience, lol.

I could see me & Maggie sitting on our doorstep & play / practice on our recorders, which drove my step dad mad, I thought once again of the day when I went into my mams bedroom to get a huge icicle from the guttering,as I opened the old sash window & reached out the window slammed down onto my other hand,boy did I scream!
Mam dashed me to the hospital not far away & fortunately no bones were broken, when we returned home I got into big trouble for what I had done, lol.

No- 49 is no longer in the street,it was knocked down in recent times along with 3 others,the council built 8 flats in their place!
I have never understood why they did that, our house was the biggest in the street,& of a different design & layout from the others in the street, it was compulsory purchased from the family that bought it from us.
Still even though they took the house away I still have my memories.

I could go on & on but I won't bore you any longer, lol.

Joan.

If you have never seen a birth certificate other than your own (having lived with both parents) I can accept someone being bewildered by the ------------------ under name of father. I promptly asked OH if he had known that and he hadn't. He hasn't the slightest interest in looking at forms/certs.

I am sure they are fed the questions to ask (even if it makes them look stupid !) for the benefit of viewers who don't know so much about genealogy

................like the throw up your hands in horrror and cry at the mention of the workhouse/hospital thing. Some of mine died there, but they didn't live there

Easingwold is nice .............and Crayke ............ be up there from Essex in September !!

Oh and Leeds as well to see Micky Flanagan at your new concert hall