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needs help geotge entwistle

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adelle

adelle Report 2 Aug 2014 18:58

George entwistle 1885 married to mary ellen 1867 think she was or went def ,george is my nanas grandad her dad was james entwistle 1904 there all from leeds holdback traces t hull maybe just a bit lost wanting to find out about george any help would be ace x :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:13

Welcome to the boards Adelle,

Just as a starting point this appears to be James with parents

1911 England Census about James Entwistle
Name: James Entwistle
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 28 Mary St Holbeck Leeds
Occupation: School
Registration district: Holbeck
Registration District Number: 502
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 27204
Household Members:
Name Age
George Entwistle 55
Mary Ellen Entwistle 44
William Entwistle 14
Florrie Entwistle 12
James Entwistle 7
Albert Entwistle 5
Alice Entwistle 2

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:20

George and Mary Ellen had been married 28 years, 11 children born ,8 surviving

This 'may' be the marriage as they moved around a bit ( George was a hawker) children boen in Leeds Hull and the last one Alice in Bradford

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)

ENTWISTLE George Sculcoates 9d 227
Peck Mary Ellen Sculcoates 9d 227

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:27

I think this may be them in 1901, the children are all listed as Entwistle, I think it's possible that the enumerator mistook the name 'Mary Ellen' and listed her and george as Allen. ?

1901 England Census about William Entwistle
Name: William Entwistle
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Joseph Allen
Mother: Mary Allen
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4485
Folio: 132
Page Number: 43
Household schedule number: 265
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Allen 36
Mary Allen 36
Charles Entwistle 17
George Entwistle 5
Annie Entwistle 12
Edith Entwistle 10
William Entwistle 4
Flossie Entwistle 1 ? Florrie?
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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Aug 2014 19:31

As George was born in Hull, this could be him in 1871


1871 England Census about George Entwistle
Name: George Entwistle
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Entwistle - Born Worksop, Notts
Mother's name: Isabella Entwistle - born Leeds
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: Brewery Field
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 4521
Folio: 73
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Entwistle 46
Isabella Entwistle 44
John W Entwistle 32 - Leeds. Although it says 'son' he's too old!
Isabella Entwistle 19 - Suds?
James Entwistle 17 - Halifax
George Entwistle 14 - Hull
Sarah H Entwistle 6 - Leeds (says grandaughter!!)

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:32


1891 England Census about George Entwistle
Name: George Entwistle
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3670
Folio: 93
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
George Entwistle 33
Mary Ellen 25
Charles Wm Ellen 7
George Robt Ellen 5
Annie Ellen 3
Ada Ellen 11/12
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Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:35

George changed jobs in census, in 1891 he was "fitter machine" but I can't make out the word following that.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Aug 2014 19:38

Robert and Isabella's marriage?

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1835
Marriage Place: Saint Peter,Leeds,York,England
Spouse: Isabella Wilson
FHL Film Number: 0918390-392

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:39

George's father Robert in 1881, now a widower

1881 England Census about Robert Entwistle
Name: Robert Entwistle
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relationship to Head: Father in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Holbeck
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 15 William St
Marital Status: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tool Smith At Works
Registration district: Holbeck
Sub-registration district: Holbeck
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4497
Folio: 33
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
James Entwistle 26
Ann Entwistle 28
Matilda Entwistle 4
Robert Entwistle 64
Joseph Shawsmith 38
Maria Shawsmith 33
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Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 2 Aug 2014 19:45

Rose

Maybe 1891 entry reads ..Fitter Machine Shop.....?

Gwyn

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2014 19:47

Could well be Gwyn :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Aug 2014 19:49

Adelle - digressing slightly.

As most of the Entwistles were B,M or D in Yorkshire, you may find this site useful for events from 1837 when civil registration began

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Although Rose has given you the probably GRO reference for George and Mary Ellens's marriage in 1883, the above site gives a few more details without having to buy the certificate

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1883
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At
ENTWISTLE George PECK Mary E All Saints, Sculcoates Hull

Rearranging to make it easier to read (it is clear on the YorksBMD site)

Surname ENTWISTLE Forename(s) George
Surname PECK Forename(s) Mary E
Church / Register Office All Saints, Sculcoates
Registers At Hull

Local reg office have their reference numbers which are different from the GRO index The one for the above marriage is HAS/23/166

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Aug 2014 20:04

This could be Robert's baptism

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Robert Entwisle
Name: Robert Entwisle
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Mar 1813
Baptism Place: Worksop,Nottingham,England
Father: John Entwisle
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 504068, 504070, 504543

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 2 Aug 2014 20:41

As Adelle is new to the boards, I will let her know how to find her way back to her replies. :-)

adelle

adelle Report 2 Aug 2014 21:13

thankyou so much guys I'm doing all this for my nana she's really excited your all very help full <3 <3 <3

Dea

Dea Report 6 Aug 2014 13:46

I REALLY hope that no one will take offence but Adelle is a very confused newbie who has started another thread on Find Ancestors board because she has been told that she should not have put it on this board.

I have transferred all this very useful info over to the new thread so it will not be duplicated and perhaps we can all carry on over there??

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343350?jump=1343350

Hope that is O.K. with you all? - If not, please tell 'me' off, NOT Adelle.

Dea Xxx

adelle

adelle Report 23 Aug 2014 00:07

posting here as was told not to start new threads so ingnor all the above this is a new topic it says relationship and says inmate is he a prisoner ????
First Name JOHN
Last Name ENTWISTLE
Birth Year 1822
Age 79
Birth Town HASLINGDEN
Birth County LANCASHIRE
Birth Place
Relationship To Head of Household INMATE
Gender Male
Occupation GENERAL LABORER
Condition MARRIED
Street
Parish NORTH MANCHESTER
Town
City
County Lancashire
Country ENGLAND
Ecclesiastical District ST MARYS
Enumeration District
Municipal Ward CRUMPSALL
Parliamentary Borough PRESTWICH SOUTH EAST
Registration District PRESTWICH
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Archive Reference RG13
Folio 151
Page 30
Piece Number 3771

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Aug 2014 00:35

No - it was Manchester Workhouse, Crumpsall

Beside housing the destitute, they also had an infirmary and often cared for the elderly if their families couldn't.

Use the following link and scroll down for details of Crumpsall workhouse
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Manchester/