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Point taken, it is back to the drawing board. The search for Kenneth William Harding is becoming a nightmare. Can find no marriage, death or overseas record for him. Where the "heck" is he?. I feel sure the two entries on the trees is him, all the details are match perfect. None of the messages have been opened. Is it at all possible to find out when those entries were put on, they are under two membership numbers? Thanks.

You must always allow for slight differences in names...............

Hi Flick,
your latest info gives the name as Harold W F Harding and not William Harold F Harding. Is it possible this could be an error??. I actually lived in that area during that period of time. How "spooky" is that.

Harold W F Harding Jan-Feb-Mar 1961 Lewes Sussex married Florence C Dale

Hi Flick,
Have now received death cert for, W H F Harding. the informant was a Florence Caroline Harding, widow of the deceased. Not quite what we hoped for.I have tried to find a marriage record for these two, but no luck. It would be very much appreciated if you would cast your expert eye on it. The cert for his first marriage is proving to be a bit difficult, Surrey C C say they have no record of it, as it may have been a church wedding, now requested from GRO and may take up to three weeks.Thank you for your much valued help. Please keep looking.

Thanks for the update, Colin.....please keep us posted when the paperwork arrives

Flick,
The above death cert is on it's way and also the marriage cert for Mabel and William. Am told it will take about ten days to arrive. Hoping we will find some more and positive clues. thanks again to you and all others that are helping.

Flick,
Many thanks for your latest info which is of great interest. Lincolnshire is/was another aircraft industral area, which may have a link with W H F Harding. Have taken your advice, a death certificate is now being sought.

The sister has been registered on the adoption contact list since 1994.

Has the sister added her details to the adoption contact register?

If not............perhaps she should consider it

Name: William Harold F Harding
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1910
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1975
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: East Elloe
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1537

It may be worth getting the cert, to see the informant's details

Flick,
The initials H, F, in the fathers name represent,

Harald Frederick.

His name appears on BC's for Kenneth and Philip's, as father but not on Mavis's, which is left blank.

Perchino,
I'm sorry, I really do not know which parent Kennrth stayed with. On the BC the father name was entered as William H F Harding.

Kenneth's birth was registered as Harding...........as was Philip's in 1941

As Philip was adopted, the assumption must be that Harding wasn't actually his father

Mavis was also registered as Harding. (Found on Ancestry)

If Kenneth wasn't adopted, the likelihood is that he stayed with his father, in view of the probable circumstances of the younger children's births

Colin.................

What do the initials H F represent in the father's name?

If his death can be found, it may be that Kenneth was the informant.

Colin,
When the parents separated do you know if Kenneth remained with his Mother or Father?
From the BC what was Kenneth Father's name?

Flick,
thank you so much for the searching and the work you have carried out. Some of this information is quite new to me, but for the rest of it, You are "spot on". In answer to some of your questions, It is believed that Kenneth was not adopted, Philip was and as was the sister. Her name at birth was Mavis C and was registered at Sturminster, No fathers name entered on BC.

It is not known when Mabel and William parted or divorced, but the co-habiting part was very probable as the marriage cert for her and Hubbard in 1955 at kent, shows both of them from the same address. Her death was registered by Hubbard himself.

Perchino,
I'm not sure as to the answer of your question, it is thought that Kenneth, the eldest of the three, may have remained with his natural parents? but the next born and the sister were both put up for adoption at a very early age. The BC's of these two are marked "adopted . The BC of the girl, born April 1944, has no fathers name entered on it. So that's a "grey area".

Was Harding actually the father of the three children?

There isn''t birth of a female Harding/Herrington

Kenneth's birth was registered in Surrey.......Philip's in Yeovil

Colin.......

Was the sister's name Pauline at birth?

Colin,
The aircraft industry in the 1940's opens up a new avenue. Were the children with their Father and did he place them for adoption?

Having checked, I see that your info is a wee bit misleading.

The mother's surname was Herrington.....and she married William H F Harding in 1936

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)

Herrington Mabel V
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Marriages Mar 1955 (>99%)
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HARDING Mabel V HUBBARD Chatham 5b 654
HARRINGTON Mabel V HUBBARD Chatham 5b 654
HUBBARD Mabel V HUBBARD Chatham 5b 654

This almost certainly means that she was co-habiting with Hubbard and using his surname before the marriage took place. ALL entries refer to the same woman
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Name: Mabel Valentine Hubbard
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1917
Date of Registration: Sep 1986
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 510

Who registered the death?

So this person may also have been adopted? Your post implies that the parents didn't marry.............

Advise the sister to add her details to the adoption contact register............