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Harry Chalmers Gray Morice

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Gail

Gail Report 22 Apr 2012 14:11

Hello,
Looking for anyone with reference to my great grandfather, Reverand Harry Morice (married to Elsie Louisa Warren.)

Thank you!
Gail Hilary Young

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2012 14:16

Born 1865 and died 1932

Have you done any research to show names of his parents and any possible siblings then you should try a search on the trees on this site

patchem

patchem Report 22 Apr 2012 15:09

http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=42313

Have you looked to see who else has him in their tree on here?

Margee

Margee Report 22 Apr 2012 16:01

4. HARRY CHALMERS GRAY MORICE, bom m London, 7th
November, 1865 ; educated at Bedford Crrammar School and Exeter College,
Oxford, of which he was Stapledon Scholar ; B. A. Oxon., 1 889 ; M. A. Oxon.,
1891 ; ordained deacon, 1890; priest, 1891 ; curate of Kingsbridge, South
Devon.

Penny

Penny Report 22 Apr 2012 17:39

Harry 1891

Name: Harry C G Morice
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Kingsbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingsbridge
Town: Kingsbridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kingsbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingsbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1718
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Elijah Pearce 32
Annie B Pearce 26
Annie R Pearce 12
George V Pearce 4
Walter Valour Pearce 2
Helen C Pearce 7/12
Ellen Damerall 17
Harry C G Morice 25

Penny

Penny Report 22 Apr 2012 17:40

Name: Harry C G Morice
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1932
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1b
Page: 149

Penny

Penny Report 22 Apr 2012 17:41

Name: Reverend Harry Chalmers Gray Morice
Spouse: Elsie Louise Marren
Birth: abt 1885
Civil: 11 Apr 1906
Residence: Middlesex

Name: Harry Chalmers Gray Morice
Mother: Cecili Margaret Morice
Father: James Morice
Birth: abt 1866 - Saint Michael, Stockwell
Baptism: 17 Jan 1866 - Saint Michael, Stockwell

Marriages Sep 1851
MORICE James Elham 5 256 <<<<
SWAN Cecilia Margaret Elham 5 256 <<<<

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Apr 2012 14:15

He was also incumbent of the church of The Risen Christ and All Souls, Hackney.

From their list of past incumbents:

Born: December, 1865 Reverend Harry Chalmers Gray Morice Died: September, 1932 Incumbent 1910 - 1913.



Link to picture of his son's grave:

http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=42313

MORICE, PETER JAMES
Rank:Flying Officer
Trade:Nav.
Service No:120569
Date of Death:20/11/1942
Age:37
Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
76 Sqdn.
Grave ReferenceColl grave V. D. 6-11.
CemeteryMILAN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of the Revd. Harry Chalmers Gray Morice, M.A., and of Elsee Louisa Morice, of Hastings, Sussex. M.A. (Oxon.).


He is listed on one other person's tree on this site.


Cx.

Penny

Penny Report 23 Apr 2012 22:12

1871

Name: Cecilia M Morice
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hythe, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bedford
Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 1544
Folio: 60
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Cecilia M Morice 48 widow
Louisa Morice 15
Jame P Morice 12
Harry C I Morice 5
Susan T Knight 62 <<Sister
Annie N Byrde 52 <<sister
Theresa Sabey 14


Penny

Penny Report 23 Apr 2012 22:14

1861

Name: Oneilia M Morrice
[Cecilia M Morrice]
[Oneilia M Swan]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Morrice Where born: Scotland
Father's Name: Alexander Swan
Gender: Female
Where born: Wythe, Kent, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Brixton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 364
Folio: 125
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
James Morrice 52
Oneilia M Morrice 38
Ceccilia B Morrice 8
Evan R Morrice 7
Louis A Morrice 5
James P Morrice 2
Alexander Swan 36
Sabina A Maxlow 23
Hephzibah Savage 20
Jane Noyce 18

Lynski

Lynski Report 23 Apr 2012 23:24

Have sent PM to poster advising how to get back to thread.

Penny

Penny Report 24 Apr 2012 06:05

Gail is able to find the thread, she has certainly thanked me , By PM, that is why I added more info.

Just found their marriage. mistranscribed

Marriages Jun 1906
Drake Gertrude Florence Fulham 1a 558
MORIER Harry Chalmers G Fulham 1a 558 <<<
Vince Joseph James Fulham 1a 558
Warren Elsie Louisa Fulham 1a 558 <<<<<


two sons
Births Sep 1911
MORICE Peter J Warren Hackney 1b 799
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Dec 1913
Morice Michael A Warren Islington 1b 627

cant spot them in 1911 at the moment although he was
Incumbent
The Risen Christ and All Souls Church

Clapton Park

Hackney

London

E9 6DL

1910 - 1913

Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Apr 2012 06:22

Well, hopefully, she will come back and answer the questions asked of her and put her answers in the reply box.

Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Apr 2012 06:28

1911 census -

MORICE, Harry Chalmers Gray Head Married M 45 1866 Vicar Of All Souls Clapton Park N E Brixton London S W VIEW
MORICE, Elsie Louisa Wife Married 4 years F 23 1888 Stroud Green London N VIEW
MORICE, John Alfred Son M 1 1910 Crouch End London N VIEW
FORD, Annie Amelia Servant Single F 18 1893 Cook Domestic Teynham Kent VIEW
GARDEN, Edith Kate Servant Single F 20 1891 Nurse - Housemaid Domestic Putney VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 1097 Reference: RG14PN1097 RG78PN36 RD11 SD3 ED24 SN134
Registration District: Hackney Sub District: Central Hackney Enumeration District: 24 Parish: St John At Hackney
Address: 56 Pedro St Clapton Park County: London

2 children born, 1 died.

Penny

Penny Report 24 Apr 2012 06:41

if they had two children, and one died, presumably the first was born before Alfred, and after 1906. Cant spot it

Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Apr 2012 06:48

Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
MORICE John Alfred Edmonton 3a 462


Child that died????

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Morice Mary Valentine M Edmonton 3a 490

Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
MORICE Mary Valentine M 1 Edmonton 3a 219

Gail

Gail Report 24 Apr 2012 08:24

Thank you so much for this help! I will follow up on all of it.

Yes, HCG Morice had four children.

Mary Valentine B 1908 D 1909.
John Alfred born 1910,
Peter James 1911-1942,
Michael Andrew, my grandfather, 1913 -1944.

Both Michael and Peter died in the war. Peter James was a poet who taught at a college in Dublin. Apparently he married an Irish girl, but I have no other trail. I would llike to know the name of his wife and if he had any children?

John Alfred married a Margaret Shelagh (Shelagh being the middle name) but I do not have her last name. They lived in Indian off and on (he was a Major in the Indian Amry and also lived there before the war as a tea planter). They had three children: Clare, Michael, and Valentine, who are possibly living but I can not pin down a trail to find any of them.

Again, thanks so much for all your responses,
Gail

Penny

Penny Report 24 Apr 2012 08:31

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/37875/pages/663/page.pdf

He is listed under 'emergency 'commisions

also

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7695244


did they marry in india?
were the children born in india?

do you suppose the children are still in India?

Gail

Gail Report 24 Apr 2012 08:55

I think two of the children were at least born in England as I see them at a young age on a passanger list to Bombay. I can't image that they are still there? I was given a death date for John Alfred of 1970 in England. However, I am not sure if this is the same John Alfred (apparently there might be two of them?).

The birth dates of the children (which I think are correct): Clare Margaret 1941, Michael John 1944, Valentine Mary Rose 1948. They would be my mother's cousins. My mother is no longer alive, so she can not provide any details.

patchem

patchem Report 24 Apr 2012 18:11

There is a marriage for Valentine in 1975, will pm.

Added:
Marriage for Margaret, will pm.

Sorry, marriage for Clare will pm.

Will pm 2 children for Clare

Michael John Morice
Birth Date: xxxx 1944
Birth Place: Darjeeling, India
Father's Name: John Morice
Mother's Name: Shelagh Morice

There are 2 possible weddings, 20 years apart, London and North Carolina.