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jebez beck

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john novan

john novan Report 17 Mar 2013 01:37

can you help trace my dads brother jebez beck he was born 1919 at lanchester his mam was sara jackson his dad joe beck his brother john nicholson beck born weardale please help i have tried everything

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 17 Mar 2013 01:59

Hi John and welcome to the boards


I think the informant, on his death cert, had his birth year wrong.

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Jabez Beck
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1920
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1974
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Leicestershire Central
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 6
Page: 1538


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Birth


Births Mar 1919
Beck Jabez--- Jackson --- Lanchester 10a 543


Barbara x

jax

jax Report 17 Mar 2013 02:44

Hi John

Have you tried to contact anyone else who seems to have him in their tree on here? There seems to be quite a lot seeing as there is only one Jabez Beck listed on the birth records...If you have not looked go to search top right of screen, select all trees and just enter his name to try and make contact click on "find out more" and remove the standard message and compose one of your own

If that is his death the year of birth is obviously wrong so 23/12/1918 is more likely to be correct birth date

Married twice?

Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
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Beck Jabez Williams Durham S.E. 10a 310
Williams Olive Beck Durham S.E. 10a 310

Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%)
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Beck Jabez Handley Durham S.E. 1a 1743
Handley Agnes A Beck Durham S.E. 1a 1743

looks like there were two children from the first marriage and four from the second which can be found on freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

jax

jax Report 17 Mar 2013 04:09

Did John marry Jabez's first wife?

Marriages Mar 1947 (>99%)
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Beck John N Beck Durham S.E. 1a 1391
Beck John N Williams Durham S.E. 1a 1391
Beck Olive Beck Durham S.E. 1a 1391
Williams Olive Beck Durham S.E. 1a 1391

Looks like she died the following year

Deaths Sep 1948 (>99%)
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Beck Olive 27 Durham S.E. 1a 469

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Mar 2013 09:24

Welcome to the boards John.

It seems John Nicholson Beck born 1914 remarried in 1961 ?......

Births Dec 1961 (>99%)
BECK John N COONEY Newcastle T. 1b 5
(Spouse missing from entry)


Parents marriage....(In case you can't find it when searching using the names Joe and Sara)

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
Beck Joseph M Jackson Auckland 10a 410
Jackson Sarah Beck Auckland 10a 410


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Main Beck
Name: Joseph Main Beck
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1890
Registration district: Auckland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 182



Household transcription
1911 census
Person: BECK, Joseph Main
Address: 5 Railway Terrace New Shildon Court Durham

BECK, Mary Head Widow F 60 1851 Cumberland Penreth VIEW
BECK, Joseph Main Son Single M 20 1891 Bricklayers Labourer Durham East Thickley VIEW
BECK, Meggie May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Durham East Thickley VIEW
PALEY, Thomas Nicholson Grandson M 8 1903 Durham East Thickley VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 29749
Reference: RG14PN29749 RG78PN1721 RD547 SD1 ED47 SN129
Registration District: Auckland
Sub District: Bishop Auckland
Enumeration District: 47
Parish: East Thickley
Address: 5 Railway Terrace New Shildon Court Durham
County: Durham
(11 children born, 8 living, 3 had died)

Meggie May is actually a shortened version of her real name.........

Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
Beck Margaret May E Auckland 10a 174



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about John Nicholson Beck
Name: John Nicholson Beck
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Auckland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 119





1901 England Census
about Joseph M Beck
Name: Joseph M Beck
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Nicholson Beck
Mother's name: Mary Beck
Gender: Male
Where born: New Shildon, Durham, England

Civil parish: East Thickley
Ecclesiastical parish: New Shildon All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 4647
Folio: 133
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
John Nicholson Beck 52 (Railway Joiner) Penrith Cumberland
Mary Beck 51
John Hy Beck 20
Frances Jane Beck 18
Hannah Beck 15
Sarah Beck 13
Joseph M Beck 10
Maggie M Beck 7


1891 England Census
about John N Beek
Name: John N Beek
Beck on the image<<<<<<<
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Beek
Gender: Male
Where born: Pewieth, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: East Thickley
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: New Shildon
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4071
Folio: 55
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John N Beek 42 (Joiner)
Mary Beek 40
Isabella Beek 18
John H Beek 10
Francis J Beek 8
Hannah Beek 5
Sarah Beek 3
Joseph M Beek 6/12
Nicholson Beek 1


1881 England Census
about John Nickolson Beck
Name: John Nickolson Beck
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Beck
Gender: Male
Where born: Penrith, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: East Thickley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 17 Richmond St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Joiner

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4919
Folio: 104
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
John Nickolson Beck 32 (Joiner)
Mary Beck 31
Elizabeth Beck 8
Mary Ann Beck 7
Maggy Beck 2
John Henry Beck






England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about John Nicholson Beck
Name: John Nicholson Beck
Spouse Name: Mary Main
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1870
Registration district: Penrith
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 689

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Mar 2013 09:56

John and Mary were not together in the 1871 census.....

1871 England Census
about John Nichols Beck
Name: John Nichols Beck
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Penrith, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Kirkby Stephen
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Registration district: East Ward
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Stephen
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 50
Piece: 5271
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Richardson 64
Isabella Richardson 64
Elizabeth Richardson 22
Robt Rennison 57
John Nichols Beck 24 (Married) Cabinet Maker/Journeyman


1871 England Census
about Mary Beck
Name: Mary Beck
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Penrith, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Penrith
Town: Penrith
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Penrith
Sub-registration district: Penrith
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 184
Piece: 5200
Folio: 59
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Dowson 52
Ellinor Dowson 51
Mary Beck 21 (Married) General Servant





Reggie

Reggie Report 17 Mar 2013 10:13

Did you try freebmd?

Did you use the spelling you have put in your post?

If you did, that explains why you couldn't find anything...........you have one letter wrong, and that makes all the difference

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Mar 2013 15:34

1861 England Census
about John N Beck
Name: John N Beck
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Beck
Mother's name: Ann Beck
Gender: Male
Where born: Penrith, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Penrith
Town: Penrith
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Penrith
Sub-registration district: Penrith
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Piece: 3899
Folio: 34
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Beck 42 (Railway Collecting Porter) Penrith Cumberland
Ann Beck 42 Penrith Cumberland
George Beck 18 (Railwat Clerk...Goods Dep)
John N Beck 13
Mary Beck 11
Margaret Beck 9
Hannah Beck 6
Elizabeth A Beck 4
Henry Beck 2


1851 England Census
about John Beck
Name: John Beck
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Beck
Mother's name: Ann Beck
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Penrith, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Penrith
Town: Penrith
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Penrith
Sub-registration district: Penrith
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 2425
Folio: 123
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Beck 32 (Railway Porter)
Ann Beck 31
France Beck 9 >>>(Daughter Frances on the image)
George A Beck 8
John Beck 3
Mary Beck 1


1841 England Census
about Henry Beck
Name: Henry Beck
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Penrith
Hundred: Leath
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Penrith
Sub-registration district: Penrith
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 174
Book: 8
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Beck 20
Ann Beck 20
Frances Beck 2 Mo



Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Beck Frances Penrith 25 126


If this is Henry and Ann's marriage, then obviously Frances was conceived out of wedlock.


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Henry Beck
Name: Henry Beck
Spouse Name: Ann Edmondson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1840
Registration district: Penrith
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume Number: 25
Page Number: 151


Name: Henry Beck
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Ann Edmondson
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 20 Jun 1840
Event Place: Penrith, Cumberland, England









PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Mar 2013 09:00

In the above 1911 census, with widowed Mary......there is a Grandson Thomas Paley.

Thomas is the son of Mary and Joseph's daughter........Frances Jane.

Births Jun 1883 (>99%)
BECK Frances Jane Auckland 10a 189

She married without using her middle name....

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Beck Frances Auckland 10a 311
Paley Joseph Auckland 10a 311



Household transcription
1911 census

Person: PALEY, Frances Jane
Address: 3 Back Station Street New Shildon Court Durham

PALEY, Joseph Head Married M 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewer Escomb Durham
PALEY, Frances Jane Wife Married9 years F 27 1884 New Shildon Durham
PALEY, Maud May Daughter School F 7 1904 School New Shildon Durham
PALEY, Hilda Daughter School F 5 1906 School New Shildon Durham
PALEY, Joseph Fredrick Son M 3 1908 New Shildon Durham
RG number: RG14
Piece: 29749
Reference: RG14PN29749 RG78PN1721 RD547 SD1 ED47 SN35
Registration District: Auckland
Sub District: Bishop Auckland
Enumeration District: 47
Parish: East Thickley
Address: 3 Back Station Street New Shildon Court Durham
County: Durham
(4 children born and living)

Angela

Angela Report 21 Nov 2013 19:45

To answer the question did Olive marry Jabez's brother John after Olive and Jabez divorced? Yes! she did but sadly died about a year later of tubtuberculosis. Olive was my Grandmother.

jax

jax Report 21 Nov 2013 20:53

Hi Angela

As John never returned, it may be better for you to click on his name and send a private message....he should then be notified by email from Genes