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Thomas J Barratt (1841–1914)

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Alexander

Alexander Report 8 Apr 2013 14:14

I am trying to track down any living relatives of pears soap chairman and advertising pioneer Thomas James Barratt. Barratt was born in St Pancras in 1841 and married Mary Pears in 1865. I know he had at least two children, sons called Thomas and Kenneth who were 18 and 16 in 1911.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Apr 2013 14:36

Hi Alexander.
Have you checked for matches by using search box above?
Also, on the face of it the sons seem a bit young to be from that marriage, and in addition are not with him 1901 - might he have 'adopted' them?

1901 England Census
Name: Thomas James Barratt
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London:

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead

Thomas James Barratt 59
Mary Elizabeth Seale 43
Emma Saunders 28
Jane Saunders 25
Anna Meek 43
Caroline Cooper 38
Frederick Mendham 25
William Chas Spencer 24
Emily Mary Fawens 35
Phillis Wood 32



jax

jax Report 8 Apr 2013 14:51

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Kenneth Franklin Barratt
Name: Kenneth Franklin Barratt
Death Date: 1 Jul 1916
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment: Essex Regiment
Battalion: 3rd Battalion
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Comments: Att M G

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Thomas F Barratt
Name: Thomas F Barratt
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1933
Age at Death: 41
Registration district: Westminster
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 556

Thomas married


Evelyn Mary Patricia Barrington1902 – 1981

two children John and Marguerite according to a tree on ancestry

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Apr 2013 14:55

According to an Ancestry tree, he had 2 children by that marriage - Jennie born 1866
in Columbus, Franklin, Ohio, and Harry born Ohio 1868.
The mother of Thomas Franklin and Kenneth was Belle Franklin.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 8 Apr 2013 14:59

The Ancestry tree is extensively researched by the looks of it. Assuming it isn't yours you might do well to contact the tree owner!
Jan

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Apr 2013 15:06

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Thomas James Barratt
Name: Thomas James Barratt
Probate Date: 7 Jul 1914
Death Date: 26 Apr 1914
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

Of Belle Moor Hampstead Heath and of No.s 71 to 75 Oxford Street both in Middlesex.

to..sir Edward Feetham Coates baronet...Alexander Thomas Hollingsworth newsper propietor..Robert Lewin Hunter and George Dodds Perks solicitors.

Effects: £405564 16s 6d

jax

jax Report 8 Apr 2013 15:19

Looking at these trees not sure about these older children they seem to belong to another couple living in the USA in 1880

He lived in the uk all his life from what I can see...so I would discount them

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Apr 2013 16:47

Have you tried looking for info about them?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

If he was as famous as your post suggests, there must be info to be found by googling

Have you any info about his 'sons', apart from the 1911 census?

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Apr 2013 16:49

1911 census

Person: BARRATT, Kenneth Address: Bellmoor Hampstead Heath Hampstead

BARRATT, Thomas James Head Married M 69 1842 Chairman Public Company London Middx VIEW
BARRATT, Thomas Franklin Son Single M 18 1893 Student London Middx VIEW
BARRATT, Kenneth Son Single M 16 1895 Student London Middx VIEW
BELL, Bessie Visitor Single F 50 1861 None London Middx VIEW
BELL, Bessie Visitor Married51 years F 70 1841 None Dublin VIEW
BALL, Minnie Servant Single F 26 1885 Parlour Maid Brockham Surrey VIEW
THOMSON, James Servant Married M 52 1859 Butler Arbroath Forfarshire VIEW
JONES, Eliza Servant Single F 42 1869 Cook Portmadoc Carnarvon VIEW
EASTER, Ada Servant Single F 37 1874 Nursemaid Harwich Essex VIEW
EASTER, Ellen Servant Single F 26 1885 House Maid Woolwich Kent VIEW
BLAKE, Violet Servant Single F 26 1885 Ladys Maid Camberwell Surrey VIEW
MCLEAN Servant Single F 22 1889 Housemaid Knoughland Banff NB VIEW
WYBROW, Emily Servant Single F 23 1888 Between Maid Kew Middelesex VIEW
GUY, Louisa Ann Servant Single F 20 1891 Kitchen Maid Ringwood Hants VIEW
MARCH, Ward Servant Married M 48 1863 Watchman Night Sculthorpe Norfolk VIEW
WOOD, Frances Servant Single F 22 1889 Housemaid Calerham Surrey

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Apr 2013 16:52

Odd that the parents aren't named...........

BARRATT, KENNETH FRANKLIN

Rank: Lieutenant
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Age: 21
Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment

3rd Bn. attd. Machine Gun Corps
Panel Reference
Pier and Face 10 D.
Memorial
THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Of Bell-Moor, Hampstead Heath, London.

Perhaps not, though, as there is NO birth for his name, or for Thomas's

Clearly not the natural children of the couple you name as marrying in 1866

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Apr 2013 17:00

1871 census

Person: BARRATT, Thomas J Address: Kings Road Markwell's Royal Hotel, Brighton

BARRATT, Thomas J Head M 29 1842 Middlesex VIEW
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1881 census

Person: BARRATT, Thomas J Address: The Heath Belmoor House, Hampstead

BARRATT, Thomas J Head Married M 39 1842 Wholesale Perfumer Employing 120 Hands
London, Middlesex VIEW
BARRATT, Mary F Wife Married F 37 1844
London, Middlesex VIEW
KING, Sarah Servant Single F 38 1843 Cook Domestic Serv
Gt Witchingham, Norfolk VIEW
LUNNON, Louisa S Servant Single F 22 1859 Parlourmaid Domestic Serv
London, Middlesex VIEW
TAYLOR, Hannah Servant Single F 17 1864 Housemaid Domestic Serv
London, Middlesex
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1891 census


Person: BARRETT, Thomas J Address: Stonor Park House, Assenden, Pyrton, Assendon

BARRETT, Thomas J Head Married M 49 1842 Soap Maker
London VIEW
BARRETT, Mary F Wife Married F 47 1844
London VIEW
BARRETT, Jessey Visitor Widow F 46 1845
London VIEW
NICHOLLS, Kate Visitor Married F 42 1849
London VIEW
MILCHINOR, James H Visitor Married M 56 1835 Corn Merchant
Staines, Middlesex VIEW
PEARS, Andrew Visitor Single M 18 1873 Student
Isleworth, Middlesex VIEW
PEARS, Roland Visitor M 16 1875 Student
Isleworth, Middlesex VIEW
PEARS, Ellen Companion Single F 34 1857
Burslem, Staffordshire VIEW
KIMBLE, Thomas Servant Married M 56 1835 Usher Of The Hall
Henley, Oxfordshire VIEW
KIMBLE, Ellen Servant Married F 47 1844 Housekeeper
Henley, Oxfordshire VIEW
KING, Elizth Servant Single F 22 1869 Housemaid
Norfolk, Winchinton VIEW
SHIPTON, Martha Servant Single F 20 1871 Kitchen Maid
Wallingford, Berkshire VIEW
TAYLOR, Rose Servant Single F 18 1873 Housemaid
London VIEW
CLARK, Helen Servant Single F 15 1876 Housemaid
Checkenden, Oxfordshire VIEW
GIBBS, Mary A Servant Single F 39 1852 Cook Domestic
Bisham, Berkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 8 Apr 2013 17:04

Clearly living apart from her husband..........and NO 'children'

HIS address in 1901 was Belmoor Upper Heath Stables, Hampstead

1901 census
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Person: BARRATT, Mary F Address: 238, Finchley Road, Hampstead
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BARRATT, Mary F Head Married F 57 1844 Living On Own Means
Marylebone, London VIEW
BISHOP, Rose A Visitor Single F 40 1861
Rubby, Warwickshire VIEW
BELLAMY, Ellen Servant Single F 33 1868 Companion
Herne Hill, Surrey VIEW
LEDGER, Annie M Servant Single F 31 1870 Parlourmaid Domestic
Woking, Surrey VIEW
PORTER, Frances Servant Single F 29 1872 Ladysmaid Domestic
Fawley, Buckinghamshire VIEW
RICHARD, Elsie Servant Single F 20 1881 Cook Domestic
Faversham, Kent VIEW
PARRY, Mary J

jax

jax Report 9 Apr 2013 13:46

Wondering why you are after this infomation and today on the GR facebook page they post this



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4 hours ago.



US TV series Mad Men returns to British screens tomorrow night and we’ve uncovered Victorian London’s very own Don Draper in our newspaper archive.

Thomas J Barratt married into the Pears soap family and with his creative flair boosted the brand with his use of slogans such as “Good Morning, have you used Pears soap?”

Read more on this his story here: http://bit.ly/14TAYqf