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Relative of John W Manser & Elizabeth Ellis Perry

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Michelle

Michelle Report 16 Apr 2013 02:48

I am looking to get in contact with any members of the Manser/Perry line. I show them in Bermondsey, England in most of the census searches I have done.

John & Elizabeth would be my GG-Grandparents. Their son William John married Nellie Burns from Ireland and immigrated to Canada then the USA sometime between 1910 & 1913.

William John had 6 siblings I have been able to identify - Martha J, Harriett Alice, Rosa Jane, Elizabeth, John William & Edward Charles.

I would love to find out more about the family.

Thank you
Michelle

jax

jax Report 16 Apr 2013 03:08

Hi Michelle welcome to the boards

Have you looked to see if anyone else has this family in their trees? If you find a connection you can send a message, but please remove Genes automated message to view the tree first

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:37

Have you tried using freebmd to research William's siblings?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:39

For some idea of DATES...............

Marriages Sep 1868 (>99%)

Manser John William Camberwell 1d 841
Perry Elizabeth Ellis Camberwell 1d 841

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:44

????????

Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
MANSER Rosa Jane St. Olave 1d 201

Deaths Jun 1955 (>99%)
Manser Rosa J 83 Maidstone 5b 561

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:47

For INFO

1891 census

Person: MANSER, Edwd Chas Address: 40, Storks Road, Bermondsey

MANSER, John Wm Head Married M 43 1848 Brewers Drayman
Brenchley, Kent VIEW
MANSER, Elizabeth E Wife Married F 49 1842
Lewisham, Kent VIEW
MANSER, Rosa L Daughter Single F 18 1873
Southwark, London VIEW
MANSER, John W Son Single M 15 1876 Junior Clerk
Southwark, London VIEW
MANSER, Edwd Chas Son Single M 11 1880 Scholar
Southwark, London VIEW
MANSER, Wm John Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Bermondsey, London VIEW
Piece: 376
Folio: 29
Page: 51
Registration District: St Olave Southwark
Civil Parish: Bermondsey Municipal Borough

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:49

Death

Name: MANSER, Edward C
Registration district: Bromley
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1942
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:62
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 1528

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:54

1901 census

Person: MANSER, Edward Address: 43, Bromley Gardens, Bromley

MANSER, John W Head Married M 52 1849 Retired Brewer's Drayman
Brenchley, Kent VIEW
MANSER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 59 1842
Lewisham, London VIEW
MANSER, Edward Son Single M 21 1880 Wine Cellarman
Horselydown, London VIEW
MANSER, William J Son Single M 18 1883 Joiner
Bermondsey, London VIEW
MANSER, Rosa Daughter F 28 1873
Horselydown, London VIEW
GILHAM, Hannah Aunt Widow F 67 1834
Kent, Kent VIEW Piece: 682 Folio: 108 Page: 7 Registration District: Bromley Civil Parish: Bromley Municipal Borough: Address: 43, Bromley Gardens, Bromley County: Kent refine search back to 1901 census search resultsBack to all search results

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 09:56

1911 census

Person: MANSER, Elizabeth Ellis Address: 43 Bromley Gardens

MANSER, John William Head Married M 63 1848 No Occupation Late Brewers Drayman Maidstone Kent VIEW
MANSER, Elizabeth Ellis Wife Married43 years F 69 1842 Lewisham Kent VIEW
MANSER, Rosa Jane Daughter Single F 38 1873 House Work At Home St Johns Horsely Town London

6 children born in marriage - all living

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 10:12

Births Sep 1869 (>99%)
Manser Martha Talbot St. Olave 1d 31
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1901 census

Person: MANSER, Martha T Address: 58, High Street, Bromley

PAMPHILON, George F Head Married M 38 1863 Wine Merchant
E Aldgate, London VIEW
PAMPHILON, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 23 1878
Australia Melborne VIEW
MANSER, Martha T Servant Single F 31 1870 Cook Domestic
St John Horsleydown, London VIEW
STANLEY, Elizabeth Servant Single F 28 1873 Housemade Domestic
Plaistow, Essex
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1911 census

Person: ASH, Richard Joseph Seward Address: 11 Brailsford Road Tulse Hill S W

ASH, Richard Joseph Seward Head Head M 39 1872 Milkman Pariton Somerset VIEW
ASH, Martha Talbot Wife Wife F 39 1872 Bermondsey London

NO children

Richard died 1925 (see freebmd)
Martha died 1914

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 13:33

1881
Head John Wm Mauser Or Manser M 33 Coxheath, Kent, England
Wife Eliza E Mauser Or Manser F 39 Lewisham, Kent, England
Daughter Martha J Mauser Or Manser F 11 Horslydown, Surrey, England
Daughter Harriet A Mauser Or Manser F 10 Horslydown, Surrey, England
Daughter Rosa Jane Mauser Or Manser F 8 Horslydown, Surrey, England
Son John Wm Mauser Or Manser M 5 Horslydown, Surrey, England
Son Edward Chas Mauser Or Manser M 1 Horslydown, Surrey, England
Aunt Hannah Mauser Or Manser F 48 Brenchley, Kent, England
Aunt Martha Jenner F 63 Brenchley, Kent, England


Living next door Wm J Manser and family....brother?

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 13:35

Name: Martha Talbot Manser
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 18 Jul 1869
Christening Place: SAINT MARY,LEWISHAM,KENT,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 09 Jun 1869
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John William Manser
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Ellis
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00668-3
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 307679, 307680, 307681, 307682, 307683

Reggie

Reggie Report 16 Apr 2013 13:38

1871 census


Person: MAUSER, Martha Address: Barnham St, St John

MAUSER, John William Head M 22 1849 Kent VIEW
MAUSER, Elizabeth Ellis Wife F 29 1842 Kent VIEW
MAUSER, Martha Daughter F 1 1870 Surrey VIEW
MAUSER, - Daughter F 0 1871 Surrey VIEW
MAUSER, William John Brother M 18 1853 Kent VIEW
MAUSER, Hannah Aunt F 37 1834 Kent VIEW
BURTON, Henry Lodger M 19 1852 Kent VIEW
SKINNER, Joseph Lodger M 22 1849 Kent

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Apr 2013 18:42

I think William John went to Canada a little earlier than you thought:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: William J Manser
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Date of Arrival: 17 May 1905
Vessel: Pomeranian
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England and Le Havre, France
Roll: T-484

A carpenter from Surrey.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Apr 2013 18:45

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918

Name: William John Manser
Residence: Hemmingford, Quebec
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1882
Birth Location: London, England
Relative: Mrs Nellie Manser - wife
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 841498

Document dated 05 Feb 1916.

He was a farmer at RR1 Hemmingford, PQ

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Apr 2013 18:56

Looks like William John with daughter - no mention of where wife is:

1940 United States Federal Census
Name: William J Manser
Respondent: Yes
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Florham Park, Morris, New Jersey
View Map
Street: Lincoln Avenue
House Number: 257
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Florham Park, Morris, New Jersey
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Having first papers
Sheet Number: 6A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 101
Occupation: Carpenter
Industry: Building Contruct Mion
House Owned or Rented: Owned
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 2000
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Duration of Unemployment: 32
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 20
Income: 360
Income Other Sources: No

Household Members:
Name Age
William J Manser 57
Florence E Manser 20 - recording secretary for novelty sales. Born Canada.

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Apr 2013 23:52

Reggie & Marie Celeste - thank you so much. I had some of the information, but you have given me a few more leads to follow.

Michelle