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Joe or Joseph Havel Canadian /American 1939 / 1945

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David

David Report 6 Aug 2013 06:40

I am searching for a Canadian / American Air Force man Joe or Joseph Havel.
In 1942/3 he was based in Suffolk uk somewhere near Harwich.
Sometime in 1943 /44 he was based in Hertfordshire near Royston or Duxford (which is now a war museum) If you know him or a Ivy Wainwright Maiden name Ivy Wright Please contact me.

David Preston :-) :-)

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Aug 2013 07:03

Is this Ivy's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1939
Wainwright Ernest Wright Tendring 4a 2478
Wright Ivy Wainwright Tendring 4a 2478

Rose

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I see Wainright/Wright births in the places you mention. Are you one of the sons?

Rose

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There's this marriage and a child born in Ipswich:

Marriages Mar 1943 (>99%)
Davey Rose M Havel Northampton 3b 103
Havel Joseph J Davey Northampton 3b 103

Not seeing a birth for a Joseph in the UK. Could this be the same Joseph?

Rose

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Any idea how old he was?

Joseph James Havel, "United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942"
Name: Joseph James Havel
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1942
Event Place: Lyons Township, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 08 Dec 1896
Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th Registration) for the State of Illinois
Affiliate Publication Number: M2097
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 623284
GS Film number: 2283409
Digital Folder Number: 004134429
Image Number: 02644

Joseph Havel, "United States World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946"
Name: Joseph Havel
Name (Original): HAVEL JOSEPH
Event Type: Military Service
Event Date: 18 Jul 1942
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Event Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Residence Place:
Race: White
Citizenship Status: citizen
Birth Year: 1920
Birthplace: PENNSYLVANIA
Education Level: 2 years of high school
Civilian Occupation: Semiskilled brakemen, railroad
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Military Rank: Private
Army Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Army Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source Reference: Civil Life
Serial Number: 33323282
Affiliate Publication Title: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, ca. 1938-1946
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 1263923
Box Film Number: 06431.160

Rose

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Rose Mary and the son are on passenger lists leaving in 1946.

Rose

Margee

Margee Report 6 Aug 2013 11:16

Rose Mary's arrival in USA. She's aged 20 with Michael,2 and Patrick, 5 months.

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Rose Mary Havel Name: Rose Mary Havel
Arrival Date: 16 Feb 1946
Birth Date: abt 1926
Age: 20
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Santa Paula
Search Ship Database: Search the Santa Paula in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Edit: the boys are US citizens, she is not.

Margee

Margee Report 6 Aug 2013 11:24

Possible marriage for Joseph & Rose Mary?

Marriages Mar 1943 (>99%)
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Davey Rose M Havel Northampton 3b 103
Havel Joseph J Davey Northampton 3b 103

Edit: Sorry, Rose, just noticed that you had posted this earlier.

Margee

Margee Report 6 Aug 2013 11:48

Patrick's birth but can't find Michael's.

Births Sep 1945 (>99%)
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Havel Patrick J Davey Ipswich 4a 1606

Kay????

Kay???? Report 6 Aug 2013 17:10

familysearch have many death and births for Joseph J Havel/Joseph James Havel.

the one above would have been 46/47 when marrying Rose M Davey?she was only listed as 20 in 1946 >

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Kay,

I listed 2 Josephs.

Rose

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Michael was born 1943. He's on Ancestry births.

He appears to be in Michigan as is Rose.

Rose

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http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sanantonio/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=154018637#fbLoggedOut

Rose

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This birth fits with the obituary, but whether this is the same man you knew Ivy..........

Joseph John Havel, "Texas, Birth Index, 1903-1997"
Name: Joseph John Havel
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 16 Jan 1921
Event Place: Lavaca, Texas
Gender:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Certificate Number: 4572

Rose

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Had a PM from David and advised him to respond here.

He is trying to find Ivy who disappeared in 1943 leaving her children with her husband Ernest.

Ivy did write to say she had a son Joseph in 1945 but Joseph died a a few months later.

Births Jun 1945
Wainwright Joseph F Wright Hitchin 3a 1473

Deaths Sep 1945
Wainwright Joseph F 0 Cambridge 3b 384

Rose

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Ivy and her siblings:

Births Sep 1917
Wright Arthur H Crouch Bury St. E. 4a 1303

Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
Wright Violet J Crouch Bury St.E. 4a 1233

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Wright Ivy Crouch Bury St E 4a 1885

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)
WRIGHT Dorothy CROUCH Bury St E 4a 1401

Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
Wright Claude Crouch Bury St.E. 4a 1427

David,

Do you have all of these?

Rose

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Do you have the exact birth date for Ivy?

Rose