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Ernest Giot

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Alan

Alan Report 27 Jan 2014 23:19

Hi, im looking for Descendants of Ernest W Giot from Jersey in the Channel Islands born about 1884

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Jan 2014 23:27

1911 census

Person: GIOT, Ernest Walter Address: Woodlands Grouville Jersey

WRIGHT, William Pemberton Head Married M 64 1847 Landed Proprietor Jarding Allekabal a W P VIEW
WRIGHT, Eiliana Maria Wife Married23 years F 56 1855 London Surrey VIEW
WRIGHT, George Adamson Pemberton Son Married M 18 1893 Medical Student Jersey Grouville VIEW
DUMAREIG, Arthur Henry Son Married M 58 1853 Ex Captain In The Army Jersey Gorey VIEW
GIOT, Ernest Walter Servant Single M 27 1884 Reservist Royal Engineers Jersey St Heliers VIEW
MARSHALL, Albert Edward Servant Single M 18 1893 Servant House Work Jersey St Heliers VIEW
ROOTS, John Servant Single M 20 1891 Gardener Hawkhurst Kent

jax

jax Report 27 Jan 2014 23:28

Do you know if he married or not?

Reggie

Reggie Report 27 Jan 2014 23:28

What leads you to think he had any traceable descendants?

Have you looked for info?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Jan 2014 05:22

there are numerous results on a search for Giot in Jersey archives

http://search.jerseyheritage.org/search/simple

for instance

http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110022678

Title: Royal Militia Island of Jersey attestation form of Ernest Walter Giot
Reference: L/F/97/M22/238
Date: 1940-05-13 - 1940-05-13
Dimensions: 1 Paper
Language: English
To view or order a photocopy of this document please email Jersey Archive - archives@jerseyheritage.org
Name: Ernest Walter Giot
Royal Jersey Militia

his attestation form could have the name of a next of kin

in the list here

http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110008279

these names also appear:

Victoriwe Marie Giot
Alice Maud Giot
Charles Sidney Giot

leading to

http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110242056

Title: Will and Testament of Alice Maud Giot, of 2, King George V Memorial Homes, St Aubin's Road, St Helier and formerly of 33, Le Geyt Flats, St Saviour. Dated 11/05/1970. [Includes one closed document]
Reference: D/Y/B1/212/42
Date: 1974-10-17 - 1974-10-17
Dimensions: 3 papers
Language: English
To view or order a photocopy of this document please email Jersey Archive - archives@jerseyheritage.org

there could be a relationship and the will could provide valuable information

the family in 1901

Peter G Giot 45
Maria Giot 30
Ernest Giot 17
Elvina Giot 21
Hilda Giot 19

(I can't find them in 1891) so those would be other names to look for at Jersey Archives (Giott may be another spelling)

for instance, WWII registration card/form of Elvina Georgina Piquet née Giot born 21/08/1979

http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110128449
http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110128451

I went to the links before, after and between them but there does not seem to have been any other Piquet with her at her address

just looking in the phone book finds two Giot listings in St Helier at present

http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha?Surname=giot&Location=JERSEY++{+-+CHANNEL+ISLES}&x=0&y=0

but no Piquet listings

Given Ernest's father's name this record would seem related

http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110058085
http://search.jerseyheritage.org/Details/archive/110058084

Registration [Card/Form] of Peter George Giot, of Shangrila, Rue Verte, St Lawrence born 03/06/1910, [name], registered as child on back of form
Date: 1941-01-08 - 1941-01-08

and I omit the name of the child because that is one of the people for whom there is a telephone listing in the current directory - if you go to the above link for the name and then check the telephone listing link you will see it

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Jan 2014 06:07

for some reason, Ernest was in the Canadian Expeditionary Forces in WWI

(I accidentally searched all military records at Ancestry instead of UK records, and that turned up the Canadian record to which I don't have access there, but free access is here)

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

two separate records

1915 lists sister Alvina Geogina Giot as next of kin, attested at Tidworth?
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc005/353743a.gif

1918 lists wife Grace (Gargan?) Giot as next of kin and gives his address in Halifax, Nova Scotia where he was certified unfit for health reasons
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc005/353744a.gif

marriage in Nova Scotia records, the original image can be viewed by searching here
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

Ernest W Giot and Grace Arnold, Halifax County, 1917
he was 34, she 19
his parents Geoge and ?? Giot

Ernest's immigration to Canada
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2HLJ-5BL
May 1914, Halifax NS, aged 30

Alan

Alan Report 28 Jan 2014 06:13

Hi Reggie, Jax, and Jooni Cloonie. thank you for your replies. I will be looking at your suggestions and sites that you ve listed.
Just to let you know that my Great Grandmother on my Mothers side was George Giot's [b1855/6] Daughter.
at some point they moved to Guernsey, and it looks as if he married twice.
Ernest was his son so he would have been my Great Great Uncle.
Not much is known about the Giots from living Descendants over here.
Anyway, thanks for getting in touch
aj

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Jan 2014 06:25

for completeness, Ancestry incoming passenger lists shows
Ernest Giot
Grace Giot
Hilda Giot
returning to Liverpool in 1921

I don't subscribe for access to view the records, but it would appear that Hilda was their child (no birth date shown)
but probably was born too late for the privacy cut-off in Nova Scotia birth records

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Jan 2014 06:33

I wonder whether Hilda married in England during WWII

Marriages Jun 1943
Cartmail William L Giot Holderness 9d 275
Giot Hilda L Cartmail Holderness 9d 275

if you search here

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

you will find 3 births to that marriage (surname Cartmail, mother Giot)

if you use google to search for the sons' names in this form

"john x smith" 192.com

you will find current electoral roll listings for them that you can then use to find the matching listings for both in the telephone directory
http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/residential/search.publisha

it would seem a reasonable likelihood that they are grandsons of Ernest

A Hilda Cartmail was on the electoral roll to 2008 so she may have died after that unfortunately.

Alan

Alan Report 28 Jan 2014 07:02

Thank you Joonie Cloonie

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 28 Jan 2014 07:08

and just another little thing about France

http://www.geopatronyme.com/

if you enter the name Giot in the search box you will get a map of births going back only to the period after 1891 but it gives a clear idea of where the surname is concentrated, particularly in the department of Manche on the Channel

if you do identify an ancestor born in France (which would seem to be pre-census era) that site has links on the lower left to where you can search each Department for 'actes' (BMDs) going back to the 1500s in some cases

Reggie

Reggie Report 28 Jan 2014 08:51

Please return to your other thread................

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1336756