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Arthur Emsden

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Unknown Report 7 Feb 2014 20:48

hi i am hoping someone can help me i am trying to find my mums father and his other dependants i know that he must have died as the only record that i can find he died in 1968 aged 71 years as i cant find another a emsden i am new to this and cant figure out how to search

patchem

patchem Report 7 Feb 2014 21:54

Welcome to the boards, Michelle.

Are you saying that this is his death, and have you applied for the death certificate for more information?

Arthur Emsden
Birth Date: abt 1897
Date of Registration: Dec 1968
Age at Death: 71
Registration District: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 4a
Page: 156

patchem

patchem Report 7 Feb 2014 21:57

This marriage is from free bmd -
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Marriages Dec 1922
Emsden Arthur Tomkins Luton 3b 1015
Tomkins Dorothea Emsden Luton 3b 1015

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Dorothea Emsden
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jun 1965
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Dunstable
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 4a
Page: 110

Added:
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England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about Dorothea Tomkins
Name: Dorothea Tomkins [Dorothea Tomlin]
Gender: Female
Age: 34 Birth Date: 1888
Marriage Date: 3 Oct 1922
Marriage Place: Woodside, Bedford, England
Father: Thomas Francis Tomlin
Spouse: Arthur Emsden
FHL Film Number: 1595488
Reference ID: 115

patchem

patchem Report 7 Feb 2014 22:10

Could you say what your mother's name was - I am trying to work out surnames?

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1911 England Census
Thomas Francis Tomphin
Age in 1911: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Place: Newton, Long Villa Civil Parish: Caddington County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England
Street Address: Slip End, Luton
Years Married: 30 Estimated Marriage Year: 1881
Occupation: General Labourer
Registration District: Luton Registration District Number: 178
Sub-registration District: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Household Schedule Number: 205 Piece: 9026
Thomas Francis Tomphin 67
Mary Tomphin 63
Dorothy Tomphin 23 (Looks like Dorothea)
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 9026; Schedule Number: 205.

Added:
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Births Jun 1888
TOMPKINS Dorothea Newport P. 3a 733

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 8 Feb 2014 02:51

Births Jun 1897
Emsden Arthur Marylebone 1a 556

HIS GRANDMOTHER
Marriages Sep 1878
Bassett Lavinia Chelsea 1a 518
Emsden Henry Osborne Chelsea 1a 518


HER FIRST MARRIAGE
Marriages Jun 1869
BASSETT George Westminster St. M. 1a 648
Clark Lavinia Westminster 1a 648



Lavinia had 3 children according to 1911 Census
Births Dec 1879
Emsden Annie Esther E Chelsea 1a 356
Births Mar 1886
EMSDEN Emily Beatrice Chelsea 1a 396
Births Sep 1872
BASSETT George Herman Kensington 1a 165

Marriages Mar 1914
EMSDEN Annie E E Kingham Luton 3b 576
KINGHAM Samuel D Emsden Luton 3b 576


1911 Census
Person: EMSDEN, Arthur
Address: 172 North Street Luton

EMSDEN, Lavinia Head Widow F 60 1851 Plain Needlework Burbrook Essex
EMSDEN, Esther Daughter Single F 31 1880 Cardboard Box Maker Chelsea London
EMSDEN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 24 1887 Lining Runner Straw Trade Chelsea London
EMSDEN, Arthur Grandson M 13 1898 School Hairdresser Boy
St Mary Paddington


1901 Census
48, Duke Street, Luton Urban

EMSDEN, Lavinia Head Married F 50 1851 Laundress
Birbrook, Essex
EMSDEN, Esther Daughter Single F 21 1880 Card Board Box Maker Chelsea, London
EMSDEN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 15 1886 Straw Hat Machinist Chelsea, London
EMSDEN, Arthur Son M 4 1897 Lambeth, London
( SHOULD BE GRANDSON )
BASSELL, George Son Single M 28 1873 Straw Hat Machinist
South Kensington, London ( SURNAME CHANGED BACK incorrectly spelt )

Name: BASSETT, George H
Registration district: Luton
County: Bedfordshire
Year of registration: 1948
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:75
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 123


1891 Census
Address: 44, Marlborough Road, Chelsea

EMSDEN, Henry Head Married M 42 1849 Porter
Barking, Suffolk
EMSDEN, Lavinia Wife Married F 40 1851
Bastenend, Essex
EMSDEN, George Son Single M 18 1873 Porter
Brompton, London
EMSDEN, Esther Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Chelsea, London
EMSDEN, Beatrice Daughter F 5 1886
Chelsea, London
THOMPSON, William Visitor Widower M 72 1819 Sign Writer
St George, London

1881 Census
Address: 66, Marlborough Rd, Chelsea

EMSDEN, Henry Osborn Head Married M 33 1848 Tailor
Barking, Suffolk
EMSDEN, Lavina Wife Married F 30 1851 Tailoress
Burhook, Essex
EMSDEN, Annie E E Daughter Single F 1 1880
Chelsea, Middlesex
BASSETT, George H Stepson Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Brompton, Middlesex
STEPHENS, Elizabeth Lodger Widow F 49 1832 Dressmaker
Newton, Devon
DICKENSON, Sarah Lodger Single F 30 1851
Toft, Cambridgeshire

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 8 Feb 2014 03:08

Marriages Mar 1914
EMSDEN Annie E E Kingham Luton 3b 576
KINGHAM Samuel D Emsden Luton 3b 576

Births Mar 1917
KINGHAM Samuel V Emsden Luton 3b 582

Marriages Mar 1942
Day Gladys M Kingham Luton 3b 1336
Kingham Samuel V Day Luton 3b 1336


SADLY
Name: KINGHAM, Samuel Victor
Registration district: Luton
County: Bedfordshire
Year of registration: 2004
Month of registration: December
Date of Birth:4 January 1917
District no: 315/1
Reg no: D5F
Ent no: 245
DOR: 1204

SON FROM MARRIAGE BORN IN 1947





ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Feb 2014 09:15

When was your mother born? And where?

What is/was her first name?

Were her parents married?

Is she alive?

Why do you think that the 1968 death is for her father?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Feb 2014 09:30

No births recorded for Emsden/Tomkins marriage............................

Searching will be easier when facts are provided.

patchem

patchem Report 8 Feb 2014 09:36

I was trying to verify that the surname was Tomkins, and so was hoping that Michelle would get back to us as nothing showing from the marriage.

I agree that she is looking for 'dependants'

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 8 Feb 2014 12:09

ON ANCESTRY PUBLIC FAMILY TREE

Birth: dd mm 1897 - London, England
Death: date
Marriage: date - city, Bedfordshire
Spouse: Dorothea Tomkins
F: Henry Osborne Emsden
M: Lavinia Clarke

Arthur Emsden
Birth: dd mm 1897 - London
Death: date - city, Bedfordshire

F: (Name Unknown)
M: Annie Esther Elizabeth Emsden ( GUESSED RIGHT )

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 8 Feb 2014 13:00

Tracing back Mitchelle's mum is Hilda M Groom born 1933


WILL DELETE IF MITCHELLE REQUESTS AS NO HELP IN THIS SEARCH <<<<<<<