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Hi All,

I have a very tricky family tree i was hoping i could get some assistance with.

My father Terence Scrivens born 1946. He was adopted and name changed to DAVID OUTTEN. I have found out he had a sister - Verna Scrivens 1943 - who was also put up for adoption (but I've no idea if there was a name change etc)

Through speaking with my dad (when he was alive) he told me his mothers name was ELSA Scrivens born 1925. He also said she married in the SMITH family *sigh* and the relocated to Southampton where she passed away.

Elsa Scrivens, i believe her parents were Ernest Edward Scrivens Born approx 1896 and Annie Emma Hughes approx 1900.

If anyone can offer some assistance here to help me clarify my tree that would be great. I have particular interest in finding more information about Verna Scrivens (My Aunty) but i understand this won't be easy.

Please feel free to request a look at my family tree as it stands.

Thankyou all.

If she was adopted then there would be a name change I would think .

Name: Elsa N Scrivens
Spouse Surname: Smith
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1289
Find Spouse: Alexander S Smith

her birth

Name: Elsa N Scrivens
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hughes
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Registration district: Birmingham S
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 306

not seeing her death .maybe was after 2005

have you looked on FreeBMD she seems to have had 4 children from 1949 by her marriage

possibly in a home in 2009 have you got that address ??

You have already got a thread on this family

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1338259


you should stick to the same thread otherwise look ups are repeated which has now happened :-(

Add yourself to the Adoption Contact Register, and hope that Verna has too.

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records/the-adoption-contact-register

Added - Patchem has already suggested doing that on your other thread.

Although the birth doesn't seem to be on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl yet - it might be poorly transcribed - once it is, you could also create a throw-away email address eg @hotmail, @google etc and add a 'postem' to Verna's birth entry asking for contact

Name: SCRIVENS, Verna
Registration district: Stratford on Avon
County: Warwickshire
Year of registration: 1943
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Scrivens
Volume no:6D
Page no:1572

IF YOU HAVE PURCHASED THE ABOVE IT WILL SAY IF SHE WAS ADOPTED

If you have had no contact with the SMITH family
it is possible that Verna traced her birth mother & they kept in touch.


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FOUND HER

http://www.ukbirth-adoptionregister.com/search.php

Verna Scrivens 22/10/ Stratford upon Avon Unknown Rugby Warwickshire Mother

JUST JOIN & THEY WILL CONTACT HER




. :-)

Thankyou so much!!