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1891 England Census
about Annie Pearce Name:Annie Pearce
Age:16
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1875
Relation:Servant
Gender:Female
Where born:Bishopstoke, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Alton
Ecclesiastical parish:St Lawrence
Town:Alton
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Registration district:Alton
Sub-registration district:Alton

Annie Pearce 16 (Kitchen Maid)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Annie Pearce Name:Annie Pearce
Registration Year:1876
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Basingstoke
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:2c
Page:191

I think this could be Annie, they are living Alton where Dorothy was born (according to 1901 census)

Annie Pearce
Age:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1875
Relationship to Head:Daughter
Father:Joseph Pearce
Mother:Eliza Pearce
Gender:Female
Where born:Bishopstoke, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:East Worldham
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Street address:No 1 Poters Farm
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation:Scholar
Registration district:Alton
Sub-registration district:Binsted
ED, institution, or vessel:6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece:1247
Folio:77
Page Number:19
Household Members:NameAge

Joseph Pearce 39
Eliza Pearce 37
William F. Pearce 11
Charles Pearce 8
Annie Pearce 6
Gertrude Pearce 4
Walter Pearce 1

Ooops........Sorry Flip

I added that marriage to the bottom of the 1911 census.

Took me ages to figure that one out!

No, I'm not seeing his birth either. But wonder, as he joined the navy so young (the earliest date I can see on the distorted navy record is 1879) whether he was an orphan and in a home or school. There's no sign of him on 1871 census.

It looks like William Frederick married twice, both times at Rochford:

William Frederick Tynan
Registration Year:1893
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Rochford
Parishes for this Registration District:
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Inferred County:Essex
Volume:4a
Page:687
Records on Page:Name
Nora Mary Cotter <<<<
Annie Florence Dawson
Jacob Gwyer
William Frederick Tynan <<<<

Nora Mary Tynan died in 1894 in Rochford aged 21. The other pair are on 1901/11 census together.


William Frederick Tynan
Registration Year:1896
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Rochford
Parishes for this Registration District:
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Inferred County:Essex
Volume:4a
Page:786
Records on Page:Name

Edith Charlotte Buxton
Frank Alexander Cassini
Annie Pearce <<<
William Frederick Tynan <<<

The above record states.......

Name Tynan, William Frederick
Official Number: 108427
Place of Birth: Canterbury, Kent
Date of Birth: 19 January 1864

I'm not seeing a birth to match that information.

His navy record (rather than medal cards) is available to buy here:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6638649#!/D6638649

Wm F Tynan
Medal or Award:Egyptian Medal
Service Year:1882
Service Location:Egypt
Campaign or Service:Egypt
Ship Name:Inconstant


William F Tynan
Medal or Award:Soudan Medal and Khedive's Egyptian Star
Service Year:1884-1886
Service Location:Sudan
Campaign or Service:Sudan
Ship Name:Helicon


Wm F Tynan
Medal or Award:Victory Medal, British War Medal
Service Year:1914-1920
Service Location:Europe
Campaign or Service:World War I
Service number:871500

William Frederick's father......


1881 England Census
about William F. Tynan Name:William F. Tynan
Age:17
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1864
Gender:Male
Where born:Canterbury, Kent, England
Civil Parish:Vessels
County/Island:Royal Navy
Country:England
Street address:"Inconstant"
Occupation:Boy 1st Class
Registration district:Royal Navy
Sub-registration district:Royal Navy
ED, institution, or vessel:Inconstant

William Tynan (Single) 17

Web: UK, Campaign Medals Awarded to WWI Merchant Seamen, 1914-1925
about William Fredrick Tynan Name:William Fredrick Tynan
Birth Place:Canvey Island
Year Issued:1914-1925

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8107981

England Census about William Tynan
Name:William Tynan
Age:1
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1900
Relation to Head:Son
Gender:Male
Father:William Tynan
Mother:Annie Tynan
Birth Place:Canvey Island, Essex, England
Civil Parish:Canvey Island
Ecclesiastical parish:St Catherine
Town:Canvey Island
County/Island:Essex
Country:England
Street address:Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:

Registration district:Rochford
Sub-registration District:Rayleigh

Household Members:

William Tynan 37 (Coast Guard Royal Navy)
Annie Tynan 26 (Basingstoke Hampshire)
Dorothy Tynan 3 (Alton Hampshire)
William Tynan 1

I am not seeing the family on the 1911 census.

As father William was a Naval man.......perhaps they were posted abroad.



Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Tynan Dorothy Annie Alton 2c 185

Added:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about William Frederick Tynan Name:William Frederick Tynan
Registration Year:1896
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Rochford
Inferred County:Essex
Volume:4a
Page:786

Annie Pearce
William Frederick Tynan

Note that Sheila's tree also has Sarah born 1902.......Belfast Ireland.

I think we are on the right track!

Sarah was born 1902 in Belfast according to a members tree.


Sarah Johnston Coulter
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1902
Registration district:Belfast
Volume:1
Page:447
FHL Film Number:101069

I am not seeing an appropriate birth for a Sarah Johnston Coulter

Or a Sarah Johnston Coulter on the 1911 census.

Maybe Sarah is the Irish connection and that is why Eileen was born in Ireland?

Between the births of her two sister's.

Ancestry and FMP both claim to have Northern Ireland births up to 1958, but I doubt this is correct - I can't see any Belfast births from the late 1930s. So it may be why we can't find her birth.

The member you have tried to contact could be the youngest child - she has all 3 of the children in her tree.

ADDED: That same member has Sarah Coulter, born 1902 Belfast and William Tynan born 1899 Canvey Island. So it looks like Prickes marriage is correct.

Who told you they were originally from Ireland - and could that mean several generations back?

If you check out freebmd for the 2 Southampton births, you'll find one before Eileen and one later. So if Eileen was born in between then it looks like she was the only one born in Ireland.

Yes Flip......

Eileens Mother's maiden name is Coulter.

:-)

I Edited because I kept posting Coulson!!

My mothers maiden name was Tynan :-)