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michael llewellyn carr

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Sep 2016 20:29

this might be the death of Sheila nee Syer's 2nd husband
EDWARD JAMES S
Last name WALSH
Gender Male
Birth day 15
Birth month 9
Birth year 1926
Death quarter 2
Death year 1982
District BASINGSTOKE
County Hampshire
Volume 20
Page 0190

His birth??

First name(s) EDWARD J S
Last name WALSH
Birth year 1926
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name STOCK
District GOWER
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 1777

Nothing else is jumping out about Sheila M Syer/Carr/Walsh, nor for her daughter.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Sep 2016 20:04

If this is Walter's death, they must have divorced

WALTER LLEWELLYN
Last name CARR
Gender Male
Birth day 7
Birth month 9
Birth year 1919
Death quarter 4
Death year 1981
District KINGS LYNN

This could be his birth - note the birth place of Grimsby

WALTER L
Last name CARR
Birth year 1919
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name BOWERS
District GRIMSBY
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A
Page 952
County Norfolk
Volume 10
Page 1500

There are potential siblings showing on Freebmd
Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
CARR Clarence A Bowers Grimsby 7a 900

Others in Mitford reg which may possibly be from a different marriage eg
Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Carr Levi S J Bowers Mitford 4b 449
He died in Grimsby reg in 1917

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Carr Raymond E Bowers Mitford 4b 380
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If we're on the right track then he remarried in 1952 to Ms AMBROSE. Its possible that she is still living as she appears at the same ER address in Norfolk to 2016. She was born in 1928.

Will arrange to send by PM in case Samantha wants to follow up with a letter. Do bear in mind that without certificates to back up the research, it could all be circumstantial. If Walter was in touch with his children, his widow may have some pertinent info either about MLC or about his sister.

The Info supplied for the 2015-16 ER would have been correlated in summer 2015 at which time Mrs Walsh would be aged c87........

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Sep 2016 18:41

Not sure if you want to follow through with MLC's mother.

Sheila M Syers was born in Bingham reg Nottingham in 1924
As previously stated, she married Walter L (Llewellyn?) Carr in 1940 whilst in Brighton.
She then married Edward J S Walsh in 1952, also in Brighton Reg.
They don't appear to have any children together

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 11 Sep 2016 18:28

Samantha has clarified my confusion. She and her husband (b1984 Nottingham) are seeking his father's relatives.

To summarise -
On Samantha's husband's birth cert (in 1984) his father is named as Michael Llewellyn Carr.
Apparently MLC came from Grimsby, and was older than the son's mother.

It all ties in with the Birth and Death reg.
Although we can attempt to go further back, its been advised that Samantha purchases a copy of MLC's Will in the hope that not only would the Executor be a relative, but also he would name relatives as heirs.
The last residential address might help trace other people who lived there from the ER.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 11 Sep 2016 08:54

Related thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1058417

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 23:03

Have sent PM enquirying what is known about Sheila in case she is well known to Samantha

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 22:42

Sorry Samantha, but your post is a little confusing. Was Michael your husband’s father hence the name on his BC? UK birth certificates don’t usually say where the father was born.

Would his descendents or close relatives know about your husband? If they don’t, it could be a bit tricky suggesting how to contact them. If you want to proceed in that direction, we’d strongly suggest that you purchase a copy of his DC to see the name, qualification and address of the informant. Then possibly buy a copy of the Will.

Unfortunately, without knowing where they lived, there are too many possible marriages for the 1940 sister to correctly identify a possible marriage.

Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Sep 2016 22:30

Thank you so much for your replies. I/we are looking for any family! I was aware there may have been a sister.
I have tried looking at other trees but no luck yet. The only firm details are full name and place of birth. These are detailed on my husbands birth certificate. D.o.b unknown unfortunately, but certainly prior to 1966 as he was older than my husbands mother.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 20:38

PM sent advising that there are replies, and how to return to the thread

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 19:14

Parents marriage

Marriages Jun 1940 (>99%)
Carr Walter L Syer Brighton 2b 882
Syer Sheila M Carr Brighton 2b 882

Samantha, what do you already know? Do you only want to trace Michael's descendents (if any) or do you need further details of his sister and more remote descendents via his parents?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 19:09

Birth??

Births Jun 1942 (>99%)
Carr Michael L Syer Grimsby 7a 1301

As the informant believed he was born in late March, a birth reg in the quarter starting April is highly likely.

Are you aware that he probably had a sister born Brighton in 1940?
See http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Surname Carr
Mothers maiden name Syer

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 19:03

alternatively, you could order a copy of his Will. £10 from
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Surname CARR
First name MICHAEL LLEWELLYN
Date of probate 02 October 2002
Probate number 1058166
Date of death 23 August 2002
Document type Grant and will
Registry Manchester

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 Sep 2016 18:59

This person?

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Michael Llewellyn Carr
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1942
Date of Registration: Aug 2002
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Ggfdgm
Register Number: OA46B
District and Subdistrict: 0071A
Entry Number: 229
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Is Ggfdgm acutally a reg district? :-S
Findmypast gives the county as Lancashire & other queries on the internet suggest its Oldham

You could purchase a copy of the DC and hope that the informant is a relative
£9.25 from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Sep 2016 18:17

Where and when was he born please?

Have you looked in other people's trees to see if anyone has him in their tree? Use the search facility at the top right of the screen, then click on "search all member trees" and put in his name and year of birth.

Kath. x

Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Sep 2016 18:07

im looking for relatives of Michael Llewellyn carr. any info would be greatly received.