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Tracing birth parents

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Nigel

Nigel Report 30 Sep 2016 16:57

Looking for any living relatives of either Thomas Edmund Coman born in Cheshire or Chester or Margaret Poole/Hinds/Smith who lived in Aylesbury.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Sep 2016 17:34

Hi Nigel and welcome to GR.

A copy of Thomas Edmund Coman's birth certificate will tell you who his parents
were.

An Irish connection perhaps?


Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
COMAN Thomas E Doherty Chester 8a 535

I am not seeing a Coman/Doherty marriage registered in England or Wales.

??

Thomas Coman in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Thomas Coman
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1923
Date of Registration: Oct 1992
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Camden
Inferred County: London
Volume: 14
Page: 1573


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Sep 2016 17:57

As for Margaret Poole/Hinds/Smith

Perhaps you could explain that one?

Prickles.;o))

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Sep 2016 18:17

??

Marriages Dec 1947 (>99%)
Butler Una M Coman Wycombe 6a 1050
Coman Thomas E Butler Wycombe 6a 1050


Kay????

Kay???? Report 30 Sep 2016 18:32

Use search trees for possible matches,

Top right --Search,scroll to search all members trees and enter Mr Coman name.contact to the person can be made by clicking on their name to ask if they hold any direct connection.

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 30 Sep 2016 19:15

Margaret C Poole married a Hinds and then a Smith.

Not seeing a death for Margaret so I'm not listing more marriage details.

Rose

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Sep 2016 19:28

Marriages Sep 1950 (>99%)
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Hinds Kenneth L Poole Aylesbury 6a 787
Poole Margaret C Hinds Aylesbury 6a 787


Marriages Sep 1962 (>99%)
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HINDS Margaret C SMITH Maidenhead 6a 125
SMITH Anthony A HINDS Maidenhead 6a 125

You can look for Hinds births with mother's maiden name Poole likewise Smith births with MMN Poole.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 30 Sep 2016 20:11

Well done for working that one out Margaret.

:-)

patchem

patchem Report 1 Oct 2016 07:21

Living in Knutsford in 1939 are Thomas E Coman, 1923, John P Coman, 1887, and Ann Coman, 1898.

Ann's death?
Deaths June quarter 1974
COMAN ANN 26MY1898 MACCLESFLD 35 605

Probate records gives her living at 5 Cranford Avenue, admin.

patchem

patchem Report 1 Oct 2016 07:41

In the 1911 Irish census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003296090/

John Coman, 23, servant,
Edward Coman, 21, farm labourer,
and John Coman, 45, farm labourer, in a large household in County Tipperary..

A bit speculative.

patchem

patchem Report 1 Oct 2016 07:51

Welcome to genesreunited, Nigel.

You have Edmund Coman born 1923 in your tree - did he use both Thomas and Edmund?

You also have Thomas Coman born 1961 - I cannot see a birth for this man, do you know where, or could the birth year be wrong?

Or is he Andrew T Coman, 1961, mmn Poole?

patchem

patchem Report 1 Oct 2016 07:55

Any relevance?

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1284707

The Mark who made that posting no longer belongs to genes, or his account has changed,

However, there are 2 accounts for a Mark Ward who has Andrew Coman, 1961, Aylesbury in his tree(s) on here.

He also has Margaret Poole, 1930, Leighton Buzzard, as do several others.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Oct 2016 08:39

Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Wednesday 19 October 1955

ARMY LIFE WITH FAMILY 'NOT EASY'

Life in England for a married Corporal with three children was not easy, and it was this which started the Corporal borrowing money from soldier trainees in his charge a Catterick court martial was told yesterday.

Corporal Thomas Edmund Coman (31) of the 16/5 Queens Own Lancers attached to 65 Training Regiment, The Rotal Signals, pleaded guilty to seven charges of improperly borrowing sums of money totalling £10 from seven troopers...

In mitigation it was said the Corporal Coman after being abroad found that life in England with a wife and three children to support was not easy. He many times found himself short of money and that was when he began to borrow.
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One of the children was Stephen Michael (1950- Mother Una), another possible child Teresa A (1952)

In 1951 Una and baby Stephen were travelling from Libya to England. UK address was 28 Trinity Ave, Marlow, Bucks. (This was where Una's mother, Lydia was living)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Oct 2016 10:53

Una's mother, Lydia died in 1963- Una had already separated from Thomas:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar

BUTLER, Lydia Ann of 36 Trinity Ave, Marlow, Bucks widow, died 26 February 1963 Administration Oxford 8 April to Una Maud Keen married woman.

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Una married Eric F Keen in 1961 (Under surname Goman)- she died in 2009

Name: MS Una Maud Keen
Gender: Female
Age: 79
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1930
Death Date: 1 Jan 2009
Residence Place at Death: High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Postal Code District: HP14
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I believe the children (of Thomas and Una) also took on the Keen Surname.

Teresa married 1977- her son is on Facebook.

Sorry it's a bit cryptic, but I have to be careful as these people are still living. If you need me to explain further please message me.

Nigel

Nigel Report 23 Dec 2016 17:09

I'm so sorry for not replying but I hadn't realised people would look at my search and help, I'm still trying to make sense of this. My partners is Thomas's son with Margaret Poole he has a full birth brother Ray whom I am now in contact with but I've hit a brick wall as too where Thomas went after his split from Margaret till his death. If I've read your help correctly then Thomas had two children with Una which would make them half siblings is this correct? Thanks for your help x

patchem

patchem Report 23 Dec 2016 19:16

You could get the death certificate of Thomas to see who the informant was - may be a relative.

Nigel

Nigel Report 5 Jan 2017 16:57

Patch an
I have tried to find the Mark Ward tree with both Andrew Coman ( my partners birth name and his year of birth) and Margaret Poole but can't find it ????