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Janet

Janet Report 27 Feb 2017 21:01

l am looking for my great grandfather his name was Joseph Ryles he was on my grandmothers wedding cerf. in 1907 living in Blackpool he was a bootmaker Janet Zschorn

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Feb 2017 21:25

What was your Grandmother's name and when was she born? Not seeing a marriage for a female Ryles in the Blackpool area in 1907.

Rose

malyon

malyon Report 27 Feb 2017 21:48

these are the only female marriages in 1907

Marriages Dec 1907   (>99%)

RYLES
 Emily
 
 Hartlepool
 10a
275
  
RYLES
 Jane
 
 Newcastle L.
 6b
123

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Feb 2017 21:53

Have you looked for the family on the 1901 census

You need to give more info like what was her name and age etc

Who did she marry

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Feb 2017 21:54

Better off getting her birth cert.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Feb 2017 22:00

Your previous thread says her mother was unmarried when Maud was born so "Joseph" could have been a made up name.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1287419

Rose

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Feb 2017 22:06

So this has been looked at before

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Feb 2017 22:12

Found another thread from 2013 also.

Janet,

You need to order Maud's birth certificate:

Births Mar 1885
RYLES Maud Louisa Barrow In Furness 8e 837

Her mother Elizabeth was unmarried when Maud was born so Joseph Ryles is probably a made up name.

Rose

Janet

Janet Report 27 Feb 2017 22:19

my grandmother was born in Barrow-in-Furness in 1879 her mother was Elizabeth Dewar nee Ryles she was born in Bury my grandmother mother was Maud Ryles as they did not get married until later Janet Zschorn

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 27 Feb 2017 23:24

Janet,

Those dates and names you just posted don't add up. You have Maud in your tree born 1884.

Rose

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Feb 2017 07:33

You still keep starting new threads when Folks have already looked this up and advised you to get her birth cert for its info

:-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Feb 2017 09:34

This looks like Maud in the 1891 census:-

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Abercorn Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Alexander Dewar Head Married Male 30 1861 House Painter Scotland
Elizabeth Dewar Wife Married Female 30 1861 - Bury, Lancashire, England
Maud Dewar Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Barrow, Lancashire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Duncan Dewar Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Grace Dewar Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
David Dewar Son - Male 0 1891 - Barrow, Lancashire, England

Did Alexander and Elizabeth marry in Scotland, as I can't find a marriage for them in England?

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Feb 2017 09:56

This looks like the family in 1911:-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
14 Roper Street Barrow in Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place

Alexander Dewar Head Married Male House Painter 49 1862 Dundee Fifeshire Resident
Elizabeth Dewar Wife Married Female - 47 1864 Bury Lancashire
Grace Lillian Dewar Daughter Single Female Domestic 22 1889 Manchester Lancashire
Niel Boyd Dewar Son Single Male Shipyard Labour 16 1895 Barrow in Furnes Lancashire
Madge Dewar Daughter Single Female Domestic 18 1893 Barrow in Furness Lancashire
Iriene Dewar Daughter Single Female School 13 1898 Barrow in Furness Lancashire
Phyliss Dewar Daughter Single Female School 10 1901 Barrow in Furness Lancashire
Nicholas Cowie Visitor Single Male Shipyard Driller 25 1886 Newcastle Northumberland
Thomas Garbutt Visitor Married Male Shipyard Driller 41 1870 Great Oyton Yorkshire
Edward William Garbutt Visitor Single Male Shipyard Driller 21 1890 Hartepool Durham
Michael McGee Visitor Single Male Shipyard Labourar 26 1885 Glasgow Renfrewshire Visitor

It says Alexander and Elizabeth have been married 26 years. 8 Children born to the marriage. 7 still living in 1911 and 1 has died.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Feb 2017 09:59

Isn't this Maud's marriage? (no mention of a Joseph Ryles):-

First name(s) Maud Louise
Last name Dewar
Name note -
Age 22
Marriage year 1907
Marriage date 01 Apr 1907
Marriage place Barrow
Father's first name(s) Alexander
Father's last name Dewar
Spouse's first name(s) John Alexander
Spouse's last name Benzie
Spouse's birth year 1879
Spouse's birth date 1879
Spouse's father's first name(s) John Smith
Spouse's father's last name Benzie
Residence Barrow, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

Kath. x

Janet

Janet Report 28 Feb 2017 23:45

thanks for your help Kath this is my grandmother and grandfather on there wedding cerf.Joseph Ryles was put as father of the bride she has a cousin Sarah Ryes she work in the jute mill in Barrow-in-Furness Elizabeth and Alexander got married in Barrow as well on 29th july 1886 on Maud cerf. her wintness were Robert Treen and Eiizabeth Ann Hutchinson l do not know any more about my grandmother or grandfather as my mother her brother and sister are all died so l can not get any more about them Janet Zschorn

Janet

Janet Report 28 Feb 2017 23:55

thanks everybody for your but l am not going to get to the bottom off who what my great grandfather so stop looking thank you Janet Zschorn